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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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I've never known a jury like it to be honest.
If someone has something they absolutely can't get out of, then surely a replacement is brought in, before the trial begins?

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I was on jury service twice ..... once when employed and once when running my own business.
The first case was GBH, which was open & shut, and the second was fraud which ran for over a month.

Despite appealing to be relieved from the fraud case, because my business was suffering, I had to sit through until it was thrown out on a technicality.

If someone's bunked off for such a flimsy reason there'll definitely be an appeal imo.
 
Just because he was found not guilty doesn't mean she necessarily lied, you have to have no doubt before giving a guilty verdict.

Edit: well someone's fucked up the quotes


Well just because he was found guilty of fingering . doesnt mean she told the truth

Hence the appeal
Hopefully her family cant start trying to get money from people either
 

I was on jury service twice ..... once when employed and once when running my own business.
The first case was GBH, which was open & shut, and the second was fraud which ran for over a month.

Despite appealing to be relieved from the fraud case, because my business was suffering, I had to sit through until it was thrown out on a technicality.

If someone's bunked off for such a flimsy reason there'll definitely be an appeal imo.[/QUOTE]
It definitely seems that a decision was made quickly, after it was made known a juror had an interview.
 
Its a shit flinging contest with people saying libellous stuff about the club. Some are getting hysterical & saying stuff AJ could consider libellous.

Who has said anything libellous? The only person who's brought this thread anywhere near disrepute are the one or two people who have decided to go sherlock and start slagging off the victim.

All things considered this thread has stayed amazingly moderate and the relatively few posts that have needed to be deleted are an indication of that.

The 'AJ could consider libellous' is hilarious and only because of your agenda.
 
Well just because he was found guilty of fingering . doesnt mean she told the truth

Hence the appeal
Hopefully her family cant start trying to get money from people either
If her family try to get money from Johnson why does that concern you?
 
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I was on jury service twice ..... once when employed and once when running my own business.
The first case was GBH, which was open & shut, and the second was fraud which ran for over a month.

Despite appealing to be relieved from the fraud case, because my business was suffering, I had to sit through until it was thrown out on a technicality.

If someone's bunked off for such a flimsy reason there'll definitely be an appeal imo.

Don't think so.

For all you're laying into me I was at a couple of trials where jurors had to be excused and they dropped down to 11 jurors instead of 12 because of circumstances where jurors had to leave. IIRC they can drop all the way down to 10, the only issue is they can only accept a majority verdict 10-0 (it's not like they can accept 8-2).

I was also at trials where it would go Monday, Tues, then nothing til Thurs because a juror had an engagement on the Weds they couldn't get out of (it's common because trials often overrun - they tell the jury to budget for a week and it ends up a fortnight etc). So even if someone was busy the next day I think they would just adjourn for a day, and even if they had to leave the trial that would be fine, they would just have used 11 jurors...
 
Who has said anything libellous? The only person who's brought this thread anywhere near disrepute are the one or two people who have decided to go sherlock and start slagging off the victim.

All things considered this thread has stayed amazingly moderate and the relatively few posts that have needed to be deleted are an indication of that.

The 'AJ could consider libellous' is hilarious and only because of your agenda.

Agree with this like. Even when there has been large disagreement between people there hasn't been a great deal of mud flinging from what I've seen. Dunno about the deleted posts like as I haven't seen them.
 
Some bloke has written open letter to Byrne, and the Echo are publishing it tomorrow. They've just tweeted it, I'm sure someone clever can post it. This bloke is saying his support for the club is in "doubt". This is exactly what we don't need.
Newspapers are a business, just like a shop selling furniture. They often resort to 'making' the news rather than 'reporting' the news. It's what they do. People who read these sort of newspapers are welcome to it. It's not worth getting het up about.
 
I don't think it's unreasonable at all for the media to ask questions of the club about what they knew, in fact that's what they should be doing.

The way most have presented the story as fact that the club knew he was guilty and played him anyway, while totally sensationalising the whole affair is terrible in my opinion and I hope there are grounds for the club to take legal action.

:lol: dear Mr libel lawyer, I'd like to sue the nasty media for allegations against me that I don't actually deny happened. What are my chances?
 
The ball is also in SAFC's court to ignore those asking them to jump to their tune.

If it was me,the more people wanted to know the more likely I'd be to keep quiet. I'd maybe release a statement saying "it appears everyone has made their minds up about what the football club knows or doesnt know so there is no need for us to comment any further on the matter. Ps go fuck yourselves "
 
Agree with this like. Even when there has been large disagreement between people there hasn't been a great deal of mud flinging from what I've seen. Dunno about the deleted posts like as I haven't seen them.

I have barely seen a post get deleted but I think there have been on or two, early on.
 
It is true, before either of the verdicts it was reported that one of the jurors had a job interview on Thursday or Friday (not sure mind why they weren't sure which day they had an interview, but hey ho). Anyway the journalists there tweeted that there was no rush to reach a verdict because even though one of them had a job interview and that the jury decision could take about 4/5 days if needed because if the juror having an interview.
This was about 3.30ish and I remember thinking well it won't happen today, it's too late in the day, the Court won't sit much longer because the judge will gave a game of golf to play, and they'll all be sent home.
20/30 minutes later we had two separate verdicts, not guilty on the first, unanimous, and guilty on the second 10-2, despite the judge initially saying he wouldn't accept a majority verdict.

You are on the right lines, they came in and delivered the not guilty verdict for the first offence, but said they didn't have that for the second offence, so the judge said there is no rush, go back and deliberate, then 30 mins later they came back in and he accepted a 10-2, which he said he wouldn't. They probably had less than that before they went back out to deliberate for that 30 mins.

I am not defending him, just stating that this is going to come up with Johnson's defence, and it probably should, the fact that they didn't have a big enough majority one minute, the judge said he wouldn't accept it, and a juror had a interview, will cause questions to be asked, when they suddenly had an acceptable decision just 30 mins later.

Orlando QC will feel there is enough there for doubts to be raised I reckon
 
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