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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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---Nemo--- said:
In much the same way they would have been appraised of the Bramble, Cattermole, Bendtner and Sessegon incidents. She's the first one there as soon as we have someone arrested. This latest statement changes nothing. It's raised the level of hysteria somewhat mind.

The problems remains the same, there are far too many imponderables and unknowns to make any meaningful judgement.
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You would think that would be obvious, but sadly not...

Is it just me or does anyone else think that the club's statement implies that they were completely blindsided by the tactics of Johnson and/or Orlando Bloom QC?
 
Sweeper said:
"[The lead detective] told BBC News: "They were given detail that he had met the girl and sexual activity had taken place."

She said the club was also told he had exchanged messages with the girl.

She added: "At the centre of this we have a 15-year-old girl who was an avid Sunderland fan and a massive fan of Adam Johnson, she describes him as her idol, she'll want to know why he was allowed back on the pitch."
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Or the statement of the detective in Court under oath

“Myself and a colleague went to meet Margaret Byrne to discuss the offences and consider safeguarding for any other young people he may come in contact with through his work as a professional football player.”

DI Sampson went on to say that what Johnson had told police in interview was not disclosed to the club.
 
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Julie Elliott Labour MP wading in now, astounding irony given the amount of child abuse cover ups Labour have covered up over the years. Likewise the BBC who are seemingly getting stuck in to the club.
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Open season on the club by the press and labour & other hysterical wankers.

Just like when PDC took over.
 
Keith S30S said:
Dark Justice pose as 12 year olds online, pre pubescent girls to target paedophiles.

99% of 15 year olds are not pre pubescent, it's a question of scale.

I had a quick search earlier for similar cases and came across a teacher who was jailed for 16 months for grooming a 14 year at his school. However, he'd been warned previously, ignored the warning and signed up to facebook as a girl to contact her again. They were affectively going out and the poor lass had special needs with a mental age of 12.

As I said, scale.
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Maybe you should have read more about this case
 
haway said:
Yes but as I said before those guidelines are for offences down to the age 12 and including having sexual intercourse and not just a finger.

So while i'm not disputing the sentencing guidelines he is at the less serious end of the range, which is why although 5 years may be the starting point I would be amazed if he gets that much. You could have penetrative sexual intercourse with a 12 year old and you would still be in that sentencing range.
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Nope, over 13 years old.
 
---Nemo--- said:
In much the same way they would have been appraised of the Bramble, Cattermole, Bendtner and Sessegon incidents. She's the first one there as soon as we have someone arrested. This latest statement changes nothing. It's raised the level of hysteria somewhat mind.

The problems remains the same, there are far too many imponderables and unknowns to make any meaningful judgement.
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The way the statement from the club was worded says a lot.
 
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