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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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Answers are demanded over what Sunderland AFC knew, and when, about Adam Johnson's sexual activity with a 15-year-old girl.

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Where do the PFA stand in this.
If my memory is correct Johnson returned to the side after a meeting with them.
 
10 Gary Rowells said:
I think its clear that both Johnson and his legal team gave the club the expectation of a more positive outcome, hence his initial not guilty plea on all four charges.
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Aye, understand that and not particularly questioning the club as I think thery've been strung along. If wee had a more involved and local owner things might have been different.
 
haway said:
It's a discussion that has its entirety on here for everyone to see. And it was clear you misinterpreted what he said. That's fine, it's ok to get the wrong end of the stick sometimes, you don't need to get angry about it.


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Would you like me to draw you Venn diagrams to explain what he means?
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I'm talking to the organ grinder but it's no surprise the monkey jumped in.
 
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@Reiver

1 = SAFC fans critical of the club
2 = SAFC fans critical of the club who are being reasonable

4= SAFC fans not being critical of the club
3= SAFC fans not being critical of the club who are being reasonable.

Notice, in both cases, the vast majority (2 and 3) of the group in question (1 and 4) are being reasonable. This is not to say that either groups 1 or 4 make up the vast majority of fans.

Hope this helps mate
 
Reiver said:
I disagree, some are going on like total bellends and discussing 'points of law' for which they have no actual facts.

I'd say its more like 50% who are being totally reasonable tbh.

"You're still trying to put forward the argument that the preponderance of criticism about the club is insincere, hysterical, attention seeking wummery by people taking pleasure in the club being in hot water. I have simply said that on the available sample, this thread, criticism of the club is based on a reasonable view even if you disagree, as are those putting the opposite view."

No I'm not ......... only the ones that are, as I've said three times now.
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We're clearly going to have to agree to disagree but I look forward to seeing some messages of yours on this thread which say anything about criticisms of the club other than that the people doing it are [lots of various bad names you've called them]
 
Sima said:
It's staggering that this simple suggested approach is getting ignored.
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I defended the club up until these instances where revealed in court. My immediate reaction was to be sceptical of Johnson's camp making these accusations but since then it looks increasingly clear the club had information pointing to Johnson's conduct being at the very least, iffy.

SAFC should have taken him out of the public eye and saved themselves a shitestorm.
 
Cockney Mackem said:
We're clearly going to have to agree to disagree but I look forward to seeing some messages of yours on this thread which say anything about criticisms of the club other than that the people doing it are [lots of various bad names you've called them]
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He's already stated if it was our cousins up the road his opinion would be totally different

I'm not sure how he expects his opinion to be taken seriously given this admission
 
Cockney Mackem said:
We're clearly going to have to agree to disagree but I look forward to seeing some messages of yours on this thread which say anything about criticisms of the club other than that the people doing it are [lots of various bad names you've called them]
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Various 'bad names, like what?

I've clearly stated that those criticising the club are quite right & proper ....... those who are demanding action from the club are attention seeking.

Probably the 6th or 7th time I've said that now.

I don't class everyone in the same category which is why I always take the time to answer you as politely as the subject allows.

People shouting and calling me a moron can go and fuck themselves.
 
Tadger said:
Didn't mean he had to play.
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Not disputing it.
Just want to know where they stand. Has there been a statement from them concerning any advice they may have given the club or Johnson.
Not looking for an argument, just interested.
 
Tadger said:
I defended the club up until these instances where revealed in court. My immediate reaction was to be sceptical of Johnson's camp making these accusations but since then it looks increasingly clear the club had information pointing to Johnson's conduct being at the very least, iffy.

SAFC should have taken him out of the public eye and saved themselves a shitestorm.
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Decision was taken to play now worry about consequences later imo
 
redandwhiterob said:
He's already stated if it was our cousins up the road his opinion would be totally different

I'm not sure how he expects his opinion to be taken seriously given this admission
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I was just curious to see if he would actually defend his position if anyone pulled him up on calling everyone criticising the club every name under the sun.

He wouldn't
 
The Master said:
So then why don't they deny it?
It's a pretty serious accusation.
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They've given a badly worded statement, but I believe they were trying to deny just that. They've said they weren't involved in any tactical discussions about him playing. They also said "his intention was to defend the charges in their entirety and he was confident of success". This suggests to me he didn't tell them he did it. But we're both just guessing. A new statement to clarify would be nice but we aren't going to get one.
 
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