Dicks future in doubt again

[SteveFTM]

What is it with Ellis Short? We have a manager that clearly knows his job insisting we need top quality players bringing in to have any chance of avoiding another relegation battle yet here we are scrapping around looking for loan deals. Staying in this league is a must, the financial gains over the next few years is a massive incentive to invest big now. What money Short has injected is a drop in the ocean, if he isn't going to back Dick then why all the effort at the end of last season to keep him here? If nothing changes before the transfer window closes then it's going to be another nail biting end to the season.

 

[Father Jack Hackett]

Said it when he came out with it; why on earth he chose to broadcast the £21m figure I don't know. Did he expect people to be impressed? We know we needed more than that even net spend, and to not include the Wickham money or the Vergini loan fee showed how much, in my opinion, he was clutching at straws.

It was very much a 'I'm a fan, im on your side' appeal. But didn't offer any alternatives, or promises, or hope. It was a waste of time and really caused more questions than it answered.

Absolutely. It obviously included loan feed paid but nothing received not even the Ba transfer fee or the canny little windfall from Gyan's latest move. According to everyone in the media, we still have the lowest net spend in the division, after just scraping through last season and are presently bottom of the table. It doesn't take a football expert to work that one out.

Bally in charge at Villa Park.

Gerrin.

We might as well just give him it now and be done with it. I wish this season was done with already.

 

[Mainze]

Absolutely. It obviously included loan feed paid but nothing received not even the Ba transfer fee or the canny little windfall from Gyan's latest move. According to everyone in the media, we still have the lowest net spend in the division, after just scraping through last season and are presently bottom of the table. It doesn't take a football expert to work that one out.



We might as well just give him it now and be done with it. I wish this season was done with already.

It's like just watching and waiting for the next monumental cock up to happen, and when it arrives not being in the least bit surprised.

We'll still beat the Mags twice like, they must be f***ing beside themselves, every cloud......

 

[Shangri La]

Absolutely. It obviously included loan feed paid but nothing received not even the Ba transfer fee or the canny little windfall from Gyan's latest move. According to everyone in the media, we still have the lowest net spend in the division, after just scraping through last season and are presently bottom of the table. It doesn't take a football expert to work that one out.



We might as well just give him it now and be done with it. I wish this season was done with already.

Yep, that was going to be a point I made; not sure of the exact figures, but barring Spurs I cant see who'd have a lower net spend than us. Its frightening considering if you asked the neutrals who would need to improve the most for this season many would say us.

I have a weird sense of perverse positivity because I dont think as fans or as a club, we can get much lower at the moment. Things can only get better (I absolutely hope anyway)

 

[Paxton]

Absolutely. With the time of the season and position we are in. Somebody like allardyce would h fortunately be by far our best bet. But I doubt he'd come anyway.

Allardyce won't come like

 

[DrewC]

Why bust the bank to get someone back to the club, promise him funds to improve the squad ( not 50 million of course) then totally back track

Its a bit of a farce

It's Byrne who is the problem.....until everyone realizes this the better

 

[Blond Bombshell]

One in a long line of recent rent a quotes from him..


Oops Kathy bates has landed..

"Niet Lachen,"

He's been doing the same for years. Bring in a manager to clean up the mess/win enough points to stay up. Then promise it's all going to be different before refusing to spend on quality and turning them into a fall guy by twisting figures about expenditure.

I said this a couple of weeks ago.....he's bitten off more than he can chew in DA......no ones falling for it and DA is too big a name/character to put up with his shit.

Spot on

Absolutely delighted he's come out with this, perfect timing as well, right when people were starting to ease off Short after his embarrassing 'statement'.

In a perfect world, you keep these things behind closed doors, but we are far, far from perfect, we need immediate action and Dick knows it. I honestly think it will have took a lot for him to come out and be so honest, after being so diplomatic all summer, but at the end of the day theres a week of the window left, he doesn't need any of this, and if we aren't going to bother, why should he?



This is bang on as well. Short got an easy ride with both Di Canio and Poyet and their sackings because they both had other issues that may well have justified their dismissal. These managed to mask the bigger picture that they both spotted easily enough; the playing staff are far from good enough to compete for a full season. In Di Canio's questionable mental state, and Poyet's ego, Short was able to deflect pressure off him. He cant do that with Advocaat; he has had over a dozen jobs and seen more in football than Ellis can dream of. He's come here, kept us up and been literally begged to come back because we either a) thought he was the right man to progress us or b) didn't have the nous to sound out a replacement. Either way, he's here and he simply doesn't have to put up with it, at the end of the day if he takes us down, most will know it wasn't his fault, his reputation is going to suffer minimally. Like people say, he doesn't have to be here, nothing left to prove like the previous two who were upcoming managers; he's here for his own enjoyment really.

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[Shangri La]

"Niet Lachen,"


Spot on


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I know mate

 

[Neil Martin]

Daily Mail; did not read.

The Daily Mail is so unreliable that I doubt it's actually called The Daily Mail. Shitrag of a newspaper.

@CraigHope_DM: Dick Advocaat future as SAFC boss in fresh doubt tonight after taking swipe at Ellis Short & admitting he's not happy

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believe half of what you see and none of what you hear

 

[viccarlton]

He's clearly calling their bluff, he only wants some more flowers for their lass.

 

[Smiler]

The Daily Mail is so unreliable that I doubt it's actually called The Daily Mail. Shitrag of a newspaper.



believe half of what you see and none of what you hear

So what about The Guardian and all the other media outlets that are showing us the exact same quotes?

 

[Nelson!]

So what about The Guardian and all the other media outlets that are showing us the exact same quotes?

Wasting your time marra. They've been banging on about how great Short is for weeks and they're refusing to believe this. Complete and utter denial.

 

[Smiler]

Wasting your time marra. They've been banging on about how great Short is for weeks and they're refusing to believe this. Complete and utter denial.

Taken from The Guardian article

'Asked if Sunderland were finding the transfer market a difficult place this summer, he replied somewhat cryptically. “It’s as hard as they want,” he said.'

Doesn't sound that cryptic to me, he's basically saying if you spend the money it becomes easier, spend nothing and it's hard.

 

[janey]

The Daily Mail is so unreliable that I doubt it's actually called The Daily Mail. Shitrag of a newspaper.



believe half of what you see and none of what you hear

I'm the last one to believe newspaper articles usually, but when the manager is quoted like that and then when all of the other newspapers publish the same quotes I'd err on the side of it being correct tbf.

 

[Bangkok Blackcat]

I believe it's more a fact that people don't want to come here than Short won't invest. He might be scared of paying over the top wages for players and if a relegation clause is built in the players could be looking at either a drop in wages or if they are lucky a move on similar wages next season.

 

[chuckyroll]

Maybe a few more home truths when he goes .

 

[Patch Lafayette]

Could be like a house of cards this. No investment and DA walks and the fans will turn with another swathe on top of those who've already turned their backs. Big week for the club, watershed.

 

[janey]

I'm honestly truly baffled as to why Short was determined to persuade Dick back if he wasn't going to back him.
When he returned everyone was feeling positive, for me that was partly because I thought he'd been given re-assurances and we'd have a decent season. Not great, just a few home wins and safe by March, that would have done me as progress.
I've said all summer that if we didn't make signings he'd walk because we needed him more than he needed us. Im slightly disappointed he's gone public as it certainly won't encourage signings, but at the same time I can understand why he's done it.
Whatever else the club is a mess, why do we always snatch disaster from the jaws of positivity

 

[Littlerobbieh]

It really is now or never. If short doesn't let advocaat spend some money on quality he's never going to spend it. Big week ahead for the club and will tell us all what shorts about.

 

[Billy Batts]

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he thinks fuck this I'm off. Next week.