chuckyroll
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Maybe if a bit of compassion was shown from the pitiful city that is Liverpool
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Wrenthorpe Mackem
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Very good article here. Sad that this has almost seems to have been forgotten.
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Excellent article. I always found Phil Neal's comments in this article revealing about what kind of man he is.
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bulletmagnet
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Candle vigil at anfield today........has it taken 30 yrs to remember what happened and who caused it?
It's very strange how quiet they are on this matter compared to hillsbrough.
It's very strange how quiet they are on this matter compared to hillsbrough.
chuckyroll
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Read quite a bit about that fateful night . How they still played the game was extremely disrespectful to all that perished .
rentaghost
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Great article. Phil Neal is an absolute arsehole and many representatives of Liverpool, even Kennedy in the article refuse to blame Liverpool fans for what happened and they were to blame. That said I hate it when people make a correlation between Heysel and Hillsborough almost as if you can make sly digs at the latter because of the former. We have already had that with JFT39 type stuff on here.
No you didn't.
The chanting and racial banter was de rigueur at the time. Just look at any 70's sit-com / comedians etc on TV. It was acceptable. Things didn't even start to change much until the early 80's
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JimmyQuinn
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The thing is, with Heysel, there was justice. People went to jail. English football clubs - and by extension, fans - were banned from European competition for five years. It's never going to bring 39 people back but there really is only so much that can be done from a 'justice' POV.
That's not to say it should be forgotten mind. Then again, the fact we are discussing it now would suggest it hasn't been...
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Reiver
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No you didn't.
The chanting and racial banter was de rigueur at the time. Just look at any 70's sit-com / comedians etc on TV. It was acceptable. Things didn't even start to change much until the early 80's
You're speaking for yourself, not me.
It was 'de rigueur' to call disabled people 'spackas' but I didn't do that either.
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PeruzziWatch
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I guess the real mistake/tragedy was that the problem with overcrowded stadiums and unsafe stadiums wasn't addressed immediately. Hillsborough could have been prevented. It took a terrible tragedy for the whole thing to change, but it was the one in England that prompted real change.
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rentaghost
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I can never understand this type of patter and also those that somehow feel resentful towards the scousers over Hillsborough and use Heysel as a weapon to whack them over the head with. Liverpool fans responsible at Heysel were an utter disgrace as were some of the players responses since then - however people really need to separate the two tragedies.
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mawky brockett
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This is a damning legacy
"There are voices in Italy that go much further. Caremani, who has been sharply critical in his published work of Liverpool's limp-wristedness in the wake of Heysel, makes the incendiary contention that 96 deaths at Hillsborough could never have occurred if the lessons of 1985 had been properly absorbed. "From 1985 to 1989, the English were only angry about being banned from Europe," he says. "Heysel and Hillsborough had three important similarities: the disorganisation of the authorities, the behaviour of the police, and the fact that innocent people died. If the English had understood Heysel, Hillsborough today would only be the name of a stadium, not of a disaster."
"There are voices in Italy that go much further. Caremani, who has been sharply critical in his published work of Liverpool's limp-wristedness in the wake of Heysel, makes the incendiary contention that 96 deaths at Hillsborough could never have occurred if the lessons of 1985 had been properly absorbed. "From 1985 to 1989, the English were only angry about being banned from Europe," he says. "Heysel and Hillsborough had three important similarities: the disorganisation of the authorities, the behaviour of the police, and the fact that innocent people died. If the English had understood Heysel, Hillsborough today would only be the name of a stadium, not of a disaster."
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theinediblebulk
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I can still remember this well and I was only 12 at the time. Legging it home to watch the match and just watching complete carnage instead. At least there is an acknowledgement of the events at Heysel nowadays as at the time it seemed to get brushed under the carpet somewhat. Decent article in the gruniad about it all.
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rentaghost
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Pinched from the other thread but the Phil Neal comments in this article really do some him up as a person.
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What an utter tosser
sid84763
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Hang your f***ing head in shame Phil Neal along with the rest of those Liverpool supporters that live in denial. Light a f***ing candle now!!!
Excuse Alert Mr Kennedy!!:
I am sure what happened was, in some way, related to events in Rome the previous year. Our supporters then were pelted with stones, bricks and bottles by Roma fans [and so there may have been tension between Liverpool supporters and the fans of Juventus, another Italian team].
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