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The battle of bath lane

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JTF said:
Bit late in the day to suddenly be playing that card, isn't it? I think the clue was in the title.

Violence was a fact of life when attending derby games, particularly in the 68-81 period. I do agree, however, that occasionally some posters can come close to crossing the line between recounting experiences and glorifying violence in threads like these.

I am, however, pleased to hear that you and your chums have never been interested in such unpleasantness. In my experience, you would seem to be in the minority though. I have met plenty of nufc supporting half-wits over the years who appear to like nothing better than to revel in what appear to be wildly exaggerated (and quite possibly apocryphal) tales of assaulting Sunderland fans...
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Got to love the irony of that last sentence, given the nature of this thread.

Tremendous stuff.
 

two left feet said:
Can I be the first to say on this thread, who gives a fuck? Reminiscing fondly over violence? Seriously?

Some people need to take a look at themselves. My cousin got beaten up in London [not a lads supporter] minding his own business by a group of West Ham hooligans. Yeah, he thought it was great having his jaw wired for three months, blood trauma under his skin all over his back and arms and losing his job at the time.

f***ing idiots. Nothing to be proud of.
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No, plenty of other fuckwhits have opened a thread, knowing fine well what it was about and then moaned about not wanting to read it.

Its not a thread thats glorified anything, its older sunderland supporters swapping stories about following the lads. If you don't want to read it. Don't.
 
walesie said:
Its not a thread thats glorified anything, its older sunderland supporters swapping stories about following the lads. If you don't want to read it. Don't.
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Swapping stories is glorifying it, given the nature of them. And don't pretend it's anything to do with the lads. Do you seriously think the club or any of the players want you? Or the vast majority of the supporters?
 
TwasOnTheFifthOfMay said:
Swapping stories is glorifying it, given the nature of them. And don't pretend it's anything to do with the lads. Do you seriously think the club or any of the players want you? Or the vast majority of the supporters?
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Me? I've never been involved in any of this, different era.

And of course it is, it's about what going to matches used to be like, or at least for a lot of the fans that went away.
 
walesie said:
Me? I've never been involved in any of this, different era.

And of course it is, it's about what going to matches used to be like, or at least for a lot of the fans that went away.
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A handful more like. Most managed to behave themselves, as we always used to get compliments on our behaviour even when 15000 turned up at away grounds. And that was something to be proud of.
 
TwasOnTheFifthOfMay said:
A handful more like. Most managed to behave themselves, as we always used to get compliments on our behaviour even when 15000 turned up at away grounds. And that was something to be proud of.
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It is, and we rightfully are, doesn't mean people should airbrush over actual events, events involving a lot more than a handful of people.
 
reginald_molehusband said:
Got to love the irony of that last sentence, given the nature of this thread.

Tremendous stuff.
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I didn't start the thread - I merely contributed to it.

Anything I do contribute (to this and any other thread) I keep as factual as possible to help to accurately reflect the times. I don't glorify or exaggerate anything - but nor do I ignore things.

There is a world of difference between the current day Danny Dyer style glorification of modern day hooligans and older fans recounting memories of their experiences going to games in the 70s, which provide an insight into the mentally that was prevalent amongst fans of all clubs at the time.

Should we all just pretend that the 70s didn't happen and sweep it under the carpet? Or should we try to get the balance right between accurately recounting tales of what supporting SAFC involved in the 70s and not being perceived to be glorifying violence?
 
TwasOnTheFifthOfMay said:
I was with my mate on the Gallowgate, and he had his Sunderland scarf on, the daft twat. Had to keep his jacket zipped up to his neck, and it was a warm day :lol:
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It was a warm day, we played canny, I remember being impressed that Brighton filled the Leazes and had plenty of ticker tape (I was only 13 at the time).

I was at the Bath Lane game and have no recollection of any trouble! Then again I'd have walked up from Worswick St .
 
walesie said:
Its not a thread thats glorified anything, its older sunderland supporters swapping stories about following the lads. If you don't want to read it. Don't.
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Not sure you fully grasp the irony with your 'fuckwhit' response.

Here's a simple question for your quite obviously challenged mind; how is anything to do with violence about following the lads? The two items are mutually exclusive. It's a shame so many fail to appreciate that.

I'm more than old enough to remember the incident and a few others but my stories about Sunderland normally involve football but that's not surprising as my IQ is larger than my shoe size.
 
two left feet said:
Not sure you fully grasp the irony with your 'fuckwhit' response.

Here's a simple question for your quite obviously challenged mind; how is anything to do with violence about following the lads? The two items are mutually exclusive. It's a shame so many fail to appreciate that.

I'm more than old enough to remember the incident and a few others but my stories about Sunderland normally involve football but that's not surprising as my IQ is larger than my shoe size.
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So we should only discuss what happens on the pitch? Not the occasions or memories of going to games?

Righto. As I said, you knew what this thread was about, if you don't want to read it, go elsewhere
 
walesie said:
So we should only discuss what happens on the pitch? Not the occasions or memories of going to games?

Righto. As I said, you knew what this thread was about, if you don't want to read it, go elsewhere
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Occasions? A cup final is an occasion. A 3-0 win at the Wongadome is an occasion.

'Violence' is not occasion.

My commenting has nothing to do with 'not wanting to read it'; it's about me making a point regarding the nature of this thread and the perception of others reading it. Clearly, that as a concept is beyond your comprehension and I actually feel quite sad for you. Ah, bless.
 
two left feet said:
I'm more than old enough to remember the incident and a few others but my stories about Sunderland normally involve football but that's not surprising as my IQ is larger than my shoe size.
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Is it really ?
Some years ago there was a battle between followers of our club and followers of Newcastle United! that it happened is beyond doubt.
If our football club were not playing that day it wouldn't have happened. Therefore it is linked to our club. In fact, it happened while our fans were doing just that...... They were following the lads.
Now put your application to join Mensa in the bin.
 
two left feet said:
Occasions? A cup final is an occasion. A 3-0 win at the Wongadome is an occasion.

'Violence' is not occasion.

My commenting has nothing to do with 'not wanting to read it'; it's about me making a point regarding the nature of this thread and the perception of others reading it. Clearly, that as a concept is beyond your comprehension and I actually feel quite sad for you. Ah, bless.
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Haha, ok cheers professor, thanks for gracing me with your superior intellect.

Sanctimonious bellend.
 
JTF said:
I didn't start the thread - I merely contributed to it.

Anything I do contribute (to this and any other thread) I keep as factual as possible to help to accurately reflect the times. I don't glorify or exaggerate anything - but nor do I ignore things.

There is a world of difference between the current day Danny Dyer style glorification of modern day hooligans and older fans recounting memories of their experiences going to games in the 70s, which provide an insight into the mentally that was prevalent amongst fans of all clubs at the time.

Should we all just pretend that the 70s didn't happen and sweep it under the carpet? Or should we try to get the balance right between accurately recounting tales of what supporting SAFC involved in the 70s and not being perceived to be glorifying violence?
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This. Completely.
 
T_Bone said:
Some years ago there was a battle between followers of our club and followers of Newcastle United! that it happened is beyond doubt.
If our football club were not playing that day it wouldn't have happened. Therefore it is linked to our club. In fact, it happened while our fans were doing just that...... They were following the lads.
Now put your application to join Mensa in the bin.
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I am not querying whether the violence took place or not. Clearly it did and I remember it. However, there are posts on here that do look back as if was something to be celebrated. My argument is that violence is abhorrent having had family and friends be on the receiving end without wanting to be, allegedly because 'it's football'.

Let's get this straight. It is not football and never was. Historically, is was knuckle draggers looking for trouble in the guise of 'firms' using football as an excuse. The fact that violence did and still does follow football around is an indictment on our national game which is not true of many other sports but is still just that, an excuse.

Those that clearly think it 'was great' must be quite challenged not to see the reality of it all.
 
two left feet said:
Occasions? A cup final is an occasion. A 3-0 win at the Wongadome is an occasion.

'Violence' is not occasion.

My commenting has nothing to do with 'not wanting to read it'; it's about me making a point regarding the nature of this thread and the perception of others reading it. Clearly, that as a concept is beyond your comprehension and I actually feel quite sad for you. Ah, bless.
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You sound like a right bellend
 
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