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The battle of bath lane
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Weremuthe
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That was ours the - Vauxies Club - there was about 3 or 4 flashpoints, the worst being outside the Magpie where a big lad behind me stopped a half-full bottle of Dog with the bridge of his nose... much worse was after mainly round that Esso garage that used to be on the corner of Westgate after the game.
Agree with a lot of that although you slightly contradicted yourself by saying you avoided violence as you didn't look for it, then went on to say innocent people get caught up in it. The point is you didn't have to look for it, just needed to be in the wrong place/wrong time, walk round the wrong corner, drink in the wrong pub whatever. Makes me laugh when these hoolies who appear in these documentaries make out they leave the ordinary fans alone & only target like-minded people.
Chuck it back it's a tiddler.
Buzzcock
Striker
7 of us were attacked by around 100 Chelsea at Swiss cottage tube in 85 . They were all tooled up anarl the fat bastards !
Geodark
Midfield
If that is a reference to ID, my cousin was an extra in that - he played hooligan on a train, and hooligan on a bridge - reckons it was one of the bests laughs he has had. got paid, got free food and free beer - doesnt come much better when you are a student
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Dilligaf60
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Back then if you followed sunderland away that kind of occurrence was inevitable. Seldom if ever was it pre planned, it just happened. What are you going to do if someone is trying to kick lumps out of you ? Just stand there and take it?. Or having bricks lobbed at you? Running away was never an option . I can't say one way or the other if " innocent bystanders" were involved ,if they were I didn't see any. That sort of thing at that time went with the territory and I never let it get in the way of following the lads. I'm not trying to justify it I don't think that's necessary it was a fact of life at that time.
DufraisFTM
Striker
'Now be on your way, bonny lad'
I think we've been through this before but my dad was at Swiss Cottage that day. You must have been mates with him back then.
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Buzzcock
Striker
Probably Marra ! Was he at a funeral yesterday by any chance ?
'Now be on your way, bonny lad'
I think we've been through this before but my dad was at Swiss Cottage that day. You must have been mates with him back then.
DufraisFTM
Striker
I don't think so mate.
Latka Gravas
Striker
Word perfect.
Buzzcock
Striker
We were at one of the Swiss Cottage lads funeral yesterday .
GK
Striker
clearly. Look at this thread for proof.
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ahops30
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After our 0-2 playoff win against the skunks at Sid James Park, we were escorted out the ground around 45 mins after the end of the game, cops were taking us to Central Station - no good to me as my car was parked in Manors Car park (with some mag pals who I gave a lift too).
I remember a cop saying "don't leave the escort as it's world war 3 around town. Get the train to Sunderland and a taxi home, then pick car up tomorrow" Of course I took no notice and ended up getting chased around China town by around 6 Mags...I'm not a fast runner and cobble streets on a damp night don't make for a good running surface.....but I would have given Linford Christie a run for him money.....Got to the car safe and sound to get the last few pints at Hebburn Legion, tortured my mag pal's in the car and over a beer, especially when the highlights came on the TV in the corner of the bar - well it was my duty.
I remember a cop saying "don't leave the escort as it's world war 3 around town. Get the train to Sunderland and a taxi home, then pick car up tomorrow" Of course I took no notice and ended up getting chased around China town by around 6 Mags...I'm not a fast runner and cobble streets on a damp night don't make for a good running surface.....but I would have given Linford Christie a run for him money.....Got to the car safe and sound to get the last few pints at Hebburn Legion, tortured my mag pal's in the car and over a beer, especially when the highlights came on the TV in the corner of the bar - well it was my duty.
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JTF
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Just skimmed this thread but, as with all threads about experiences at games in the 70s, there seem to be some posters who are happy to pass judgement on things they know absolutely nothing about.
If you didn't attend games in the 70s - and specifically games against newcastle - then you are in no position to pass judgement on anyone or anything.
I can't be bothered to go into details, but all I will say is that there was a very understandable build up of anger amongst many of our fans over a period of time culminating in the events at the derby at RP earlier that season, that contributed to what happened at newcastle in Feb 79.
If you didn't attend games in the 70s - and specifically games against newcastle - then you are in no position to pass judgement on anyone or anything.
I can't be bothered to go into details, but all I will say is that there was a very understandable build up of anger amongst many of our fans over a period of time culminating in the events at the derby at RP earlier that season, that contributed to what happened at newcastle in Feb 79.
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The Omega Man
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Just to pick up on comments about the 70's.
This is where I came in supporting SAFC, home and away, and TBH every game in London was an event, but all it did was reflect the society we lived in at the time. No PC bollocks and things pretty much out of control at times. Nowadays if you did some of the things you did back then you would be in jail. I remembering starting work in 1977 and the work place was unbelievable; arses, tits and cocks being felt through clothes etc. Smoking of course was rife in offices and all sorts of shagging went on at works xmas party's etc.
So TBH the violence that accompanied football in the 70's and to an extend early to mid 80's just reflected other activities that were going on back then in a whole host of environments.
This is where I came in supporting SAFC, home and away, and TBH every game in London was an event, but all it did was reflect the society we lived in at the time. No PC bollocks and things pretty much out of control at times. Nowadays if you did some of the things you did back then you would be in jail. I remembering starting work in 1977 and the work place was unbelievable; arses, tits and cocks being felt through clothes etc. Smoking of course was rife in offices and all sorts of shagging went on at works xmas party's etc.
So TBH the violence that accompanied football in the 70's and to an extend early to mid 80's just reflected other activities that were going on back then in a whole host of environments.
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part timer
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With respect to those who didn't go to matches in the 70s, I lived in Roker and saw men, women and children beaten up when Newcastle came through. You could be attacked in your own Street. There was once a fight in my street and it ended up in the lobby and hallway of a house! Say what you like about the old hooligans, but many were just normal blokes who had enough, getting together to repel the scum, that tried to take over every Derby say. And once they did this the mags were never the same threat again.
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JTF
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Care to expand on this?
My understanding at the time was that newcastle going in the Fulwell in 1970 was a direct response to Sunderland going in the leazes the previous year - but it seems to have been removed from history by our friends up the road.
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