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No doubt, dug in well but apart from Cook and Robson, all have scored and batted well. A lot of silly wickets given away, but thats just cricket.
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Joe Root
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Wasn't impressed with ballance mind.Looked very scratchy.Root will be a big player for us for long time to come.Weve been spoilt for best part of decade with a settled and world class top 5.Think we just going to have to show bit patience with this crop.
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I would say Ballance probably isn't a number 3, I thought thats where Root would have been pushed back to. Ballance seemed to constantly be stretching for wide deliveries, also bats to far back in his crease I think.
I do like Root though, just think sometimes he gets himself bogged down to much at times. We have got decent crop coming through if we give them a chance, desperately need a decent spinner to appear on the scene though
Yeah I agree root should have been 3 and ballance 5.Seemed a strange choice but 344-5 and a ton for root kind of backs the decision up.Still don't think it's the way going forward though.
Yes a spinner is a must.Just doesn't seem to be any decent ones coming through unfortunately.
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I just find 3 has to be a rock for others to build around and to just stay in, which Root can do quite well like Trott. I does give the decision some credit though i agree. I wonder if they did it so there was less pressure as such on Root, to try and get him back into the groove of it. Be intresting to see if it's something they continue with or whether the order will change later.
We only seem to have 3 spinning options around atm they way it gets talked about. Ali, Patel and Borthwick all seem to be better batsmen than bowlers, so it is an issue. I know Swann says it should be Borthwick, as he thinks he is the most promising spinner. Not sure if i agree though, as i think his bowling often struggles. Do like him though
Won't be a popular view on here but if Borthwick is to fulfil his potential with the ball I think he has to move on.Durham is predominantly seamer friendly and temperature doesn't do a great deal for the spinning fingers either.
A Hampshire, Middlesex or Surrey be a good fit.
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Root should never have been moved from 5, from what I have seen, he isn't an opener or a number 3, he struggles against the new ball and on the front foot.
He is perfect for the middle order, and is a good player of spin. Why they ever moved him is beyond me, they should of just kept Compton with Cook, simple.
Give over, he has just made a 100, Root is never a number 3 currently like, how many more times did he have to fail at the top of the order for people to change their mind.
He is perfect for the middle order, and is a good player of spin. Why they ever moved him is beyond me, they should of just kept Compton with Cook, simple.
Give over, he has just made a 100, Root is never a number 3 currently like, how many more times did he have to fail at the top of the order for people to change their mind.
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I'd imagine if he continues to do well with the bat, he will get chances to go with England abroad and at least get practice in that can help him develop. Our wickets at Durham always seem to be strange, always seems poor for the most part but that may just be me.
I would hope he would stay, and maybe try and get a club in Australia or something through the winter.
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Keep Root away from the top, he isn't suited to it, all the hallmarks of a number 4 of 5, whether Balance is a number 3 is a different matter, but doesn't mean we have to play Root there just because he isn't, leave him alone, he should never have been moved from 5.
I would have Compton 3 myself, he only got dropped as his face doesn't fit.
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Never been keen on Compton myself. Seems to have taken a hefty knock to his confidence as well.
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I don't think it just our pitch, as he often struggles to even land it sometimes. it is a tricky one, but he will get opportunities to bowl lots of overs later in the summer, pitches still not suited to it currently.
He shouldn't of been dropped based on what he did though, saw off the new ball excellently in India, and got a few hundreds against an excellent NZ attack.
He made a 100 opening last summer as well as opening batting for Yorkshire which would suggest he's a top order player and is where he will eventually end up for England.
Last summer was a year too soon I thought and I agree should have stuck with Compton for that period but eventually Root will end up there again.
One tug does not a wank make
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It is his issue of trying to get some consistency going. Does seem to struggle to hit a certain area and length regularly. Always think its harder to bowl leg spin than off spin whenever i try like
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Give ower, Root was superb on the front foot today. Everthing went straight back past the bowler.
Ian f***ing Bell should be stepping up as the most senior batsmen and demanding to bat at 3. Gutless wonder that bloke
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This argument is an absolute load of shite, it is nothing to do with guts, he is our best batsmen, why on earth would want to put him at number 3 and expose him to the new ball? Were you calling KP gutless when he didn't step up, Michael Clarke? Ian Bell has to bat at 4
Because Root is not a test match number 3, he has clear technical faults like, it isn't rocket science
Aye he isn't against the new ball, he has been poor on the front foot, this isn;t just me who thinks that, it has been explained by the likes of Michael Vaughan, who is his mentor
Nah no chance is he an opener like, apart from that 100 he barely made a score, too many technical faults to be exposed to the new ball
He prefers to bat at 4 or 5. That is accepted, but in the current state of flux, as the most experienced member of the side (and the best technical batsmen in the side) he should be stepping up. You play your best player at 3 - Bell is our best player - he has the technique to be an opener against the new ball, or a middle order batsmen against the old ball - that is perfect for 3
In terms of KP - not sure his technique would stand up against the new ball. Ditto Clarke, especially considering his back problem.
In an ideal world, Bell could be the powerhouse coming in at 4 or 5, but having lost the heart of the middle order in Trott and KP it is time to step up instead of letting a rookie play at 3
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I here what you are saying mate, I just don't agree with the sentiment, I think it would have a negative impact on the team. I don;t think you should expose your best player to the new ball, it really isn't about guts, the captain and coach decide the lineup, they would just say to him, you are batting 3.
Bell will score more runs at 4, so why waste him at 3? He is a lot more likely to nick off when the bill is moving about and is harder. We have options there, we can either put experience like car berry or compton in, or give a youngster like Balance a long run.
Look how well Bell did last year, he was the main difference between the sides in the home ashes summer, he would be a complete waste at 3 IMO.
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