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players using silicon to avoid edges on hotspot

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so the craic goes...

players (from both teams) are putting silicon tape along the edge of their bats to stop edges showing on hotspot...
 

Waddnt surprise me in all honesty... One thing I've noticed about this series is the amount of nicks that have been clearly heard but ain't showed up on hotspot... KP's in the OT test for one... You could clearly hear the noise but there was no mark on the edge...
 
BIG BAZ said:
Waddnt surprise me in all honesty... One thing I've noticed about this series is the amount of nicks that have been clearly heard but ain't showed up on hotspot... KP's in the OT test for one... You could clearly hear the noise but there was no mark on the edge...
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that's the one they've used on the news here as the example. the head of the icc is off to durham to sort it out. the bat manufacturers are 'possibly' in on it anarl...
 
Easy solution there then. Just ban and kind of tape on bats, in particular on the edge.

It's not like the old days where lads only have a bat or 2, they get bag fulls from sponsors. Wont affect any other cricket outside of the internation game as they dont use hotspot anyway.

I saw a similar story a few years ago where they were putting deep heat on the tape to do similar.
 
Wasn't the talk of vaseline doing the same thing a couple of years ago, then when they brought in the new HD hotspot talk of that seemed to die off.

Why not just make sure that bats are checked before players come out, as in how footballers get their boots/shin pads checked before coming on.

Mackem DJ said:
Works against them in the event of an LBW shout where they have got an inside edge surely.
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More likely to be caught on an outside edge and saved from LBW on the inside edge. Just put the tape on the outside edge and hope you don't nick one off the inside through to the keeper :neutral:
 
Didn't this get talked out with the Indians a while back?

They just have to use snicko and that's it solved.
 
Vaseline is what I've heard. Probably rubbish but if the thing works on friction causing heat you can see the possibility.

Something is wrong though. It's only about a year ago when all the players were happy with hotspot and it appeared to pick almost everything up, probably the 99% the makers claim. It doesn't help that the interpretation of the umpires differs from one match to the next or, staggeringly, that the third umpire apparently only has a small monitor in a poky room, (with hardly any training it seems), in which to make his calls.

Hotspot might have to be ditched for now, it is missing too much, and a proper uniform approach taken to the rest of DRS. Preferably IMO with dedicated third umpires with more training and who would be less reluctant to over rule when necessary the two guys standing.

Mackem DJ said:
Works against them in the event of an LBW shout where they have got an inside edge surely.
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That was my thought as well.
 
Snicko takes too long to be used but it seems to be a more consistent measure to me.

There have been a few catches give/not given where the sound suggests an edge but there's nothing on hotspot (I was sure Warner nicked that one that got reviewed on Sunday) which suggests something is up. Whether it's shenanigans with tape, it's been too hot or what I don't know but it needs to be sorted or it will have to be removed from DRS. Was reading today that for the best hot spot result it needs to be cold and be from a spin bowler, I don't think it should be used if there's a large variance due to the type of bowler and conditions.

There was a bit of talk about Vaseline a couple of years ago but I think most players denied using it. The manufacturers did some testing and said it didn't make a difference which doesn't surprise me as the ball would still have to come into contact with the bat at a fair pace regardless of how much Vaseline had been smeared on the edge.
 
The easiest solution is to pull all technology and go back to the old system where the umpire's decision is final.

There is more they could do to help the on-field umpire. For instance, I've never understood why they don't have some kind of mark that runs wicket to wicket so the umpire can see exactly where the ball pitches for LBW.
 
so it's the bloke who invented hot spot that has brought this up. he reckons he's done some testing to prove it can be done. he also said he'd spoken to the ICC about it and they told him to let it lie...
 
They call it transference don't they? You know, when someone accuses someone else of their own worst qualities, in order to deflect from themselves.

That's why Aussies call us 'Whinging Poms'.


Randy Ostrich said:
The easiest solution is to pull all technology and go back to the old system where the umpire's decision is final.

There is more they could do to help the on-field umpire. For instance, I've never understood why they don't have some kind of mark that runs wicket to wicket so the umpire can see exactly where the ball pitches for LBW.
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:shock:

You never seen a tennis match where the ball hit the lines and shoots? Any mark in or around a length would be tricky.
 
Steak Pie said:
You never seen a tennis match where the ball hit the lines and shoots? Any mark in or around a length would be tricky.
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Same for both sides though. Not sure a painted stripe down the middle would necessarily make too much difference but it'd be interesting to find out. The more I see a gaggle of players huddling together to debate an umpire's decision, the more worried I become of the effect this is having on the game. Seeing players openly question the umpire isn't cricket and anything that can be done to return some authority to the umpires would be alright with me.

There must be other things that can be done to help? An automated system for no balls perhaps so the umpires aren't having to look up and down?
 
Randy Ostrich said:
Same for both sides though. Not sure a painted stripe down the middle would necessarily make too much difference but it'd be interesting to find out. The more I see a gaggle of players huddling together to debate an umpire's decision, the more worried I become of the effect this is having on the game. Seeing players openly question the umpire isn't cricket and anything that can be done to return some authority to the umpires would be alright with me.

There must be other things that can be done to help? An automated system for no balls perhaps so the umpires aren't having to look up and down?
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No ball thing would be easy enough. But any kind of line would mess with the bounce, and you'd get stuff on the ball, not practical IMO.
 
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