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Cameron White has a very solid technique behind his raw power though, Wright is nothing more than a slogger who can club a couple of sixes against poor bowling attacks on flat pitches.

And Steve Smith is forever in and out of that Australian team. We aren't good enough because we pick players like Luke Wright, Dmitri Mascheranas etc in the first place, not because we don't stick by them.
 

Dexter said:
Cameron White has a very solid technique behind his raw power though, Wright is nothing more than a slogger who can club a couple of sixes against poor bowling attacks on flat pitches.

And Steve Smith is forever in and out of that Australian team. We aren't good enough because we pick players like Luke Wright, Dmitri Mascheranas etc in the first place, not because we don't stick by them.
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rubbish.

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Next you will be telling me Ian Bell hasnt been messed around the order and doesnt have the ability to play one day cricket.

Another superb talent in the one day arena who the selectors dont have a clue what to do with

Any englishman who can open the batting in Australia domestic 20/20 bash which is of a decent standard and smoke a 44 ball 100 can play. period
 
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This is one of those arguments we wont win lads

If he doesn't play again, its cos we gave up too early
If we stick with him, every time he "comes off" we will have been proven wrong. And in the meantime we will be advised to "stick with him"

Not good enough. Pure and simple
 
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rubbish.

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Next you will be telling me Ian Bell hasnt been messed around the order and doesnt have the ability to play one day cricket.

Another superb talent in the one day arena who the selectors dont have a clue what to do with

Any englishman who can open the batting in Australia domestic 20/20 bash which is of a decent standard and smoke a 44 ball 100 can play. period
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On a given day Wright is one of the few that can do that. He hits the ball miles and has fast hands. If the bowling is poor he can smash it and even on occasions when the bowling is decent, if its his day and the top edges find the gaps he will also succeed. He will fail a lot more than he succeeds because of massive technical flaws and not being too good at manipulating the ball when Plan A isnt working - in short hes a good slogger.

Shah for example is a completely different class as a batsman to Luke Wright.
 
rentaghost said:
On a given day Wright is one of the few that can do that. He hits the ball miles and has fast hands. If the bowling is poor he can smash it and even on occasions when the bowling is decent, if its his day and the top edges find the gaps he will also succeed. He will fail a lot more than he succeeds because of massive technical flaws and not being too good at manipulating the ball when Plan A isnt working - in short hes a good slogger.

Shah for example is a completely different class as a batsman to Luke Wright.
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Exactly. Luke Wright has a decent eye and he can hit the ball miles. When he comes off he can be lethal. Unfortunately he comes off infrequently against county bowling, and has never come off at international level.
 
rentaghost said:
On a given day Wright is one of the few that can do that. He hits the ball miles and has fast hands. If the bowling is poor he can smash it and even on occasions when the bowling is decent, if its his day and the top edges find the gaps he will also succeed. He will fail a lot more than he succeeds because of massive technical flaws and not being too good at manipulating the ball when Plan A isnt working - in short hes a good slogger.

Shah for example is a completely different class as a batsman to Luke Wright.
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Spot on, again.

To compare Wright with Shah is madness, Shah is one of the most elegant, wristy and complete batsmen on the circuit, he's just also a bit mental for international cricket and a shocking fielder.
 
I would like to see Luke Wright in at number 7 and also given a good shot at bowling at least 8overs a game for the next 2 ODI series. The lad has ability but like many ODI players has been mucked around he isn't the complete article yet but with a proper run and clear role IMO he will become a good ODI player. Also has to be in the 20/20 team.

He is also the one of the biggest team players I have seen even though it has done him no good
 
eddyfinn said:
I would like to see Luke Wright in at number 7 and also given a good shot at bowling at least 8overs a game for the next 2 ODI series. The lad has ability but like many ODI players has been mucked around he isn't the complete article yet but with a proper run and clear role IMO he will become a good ODI player. Also has to be in the 20/20 team.

He is also the one of the biggest team players I have seen even though it has done him no good
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The problem with Wright at 7 is that ideally that player needs to be a big hitter and someone who can finish - Wright doesn't have enough in his locker to do the latter. He can slog a bit but his technique is so woefully inadequate that if a bowler ties him down a bit he has no get out shots.
 
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The problem with Wright at 7 is that ideally that player needs to be a big hitter and someone who can finish - Wright doesn't have enough in his locker to do the latter. He can slog a bit but his technique is so woefully inadequate that if a bowler ties him down a bit he has no get out shots.
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If you are given a chance any player can become a finisher being able to hit big is a major plus for any finisher anyway, imo he just needs to become more cute with his shots. Morgan is Englands major finisher anyway.
 
eddyfinn said:
If you are given a chance any player can become a finisher being able to hit big is a major plus for any finisher anyway, imo he just needs to become more cute with his shots. Morgan is Englands major finisher anyway.
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Agree with the point on Morgan but 7 is an important position for me as you need to be adaptable, could be after 25 overs at 100/5 or 40 overs at 220/5.

I just don't think Wright has anywhere near the technique currently to be anything but a slogger who may come off every now and again.
 
The Breen Machine said:
Agree with the point on Morgan but 7 is an important position for me as you need to be adaptable, could be after 25 overs at 100/5 or 40 overs at 220/5.

I just don't think Wright has anywhere near the technique currently to be anything but a slogger who may come off every now and again.
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Is this due to counties focus been on 4 day cricket, meaning a lot of 'quality' bowlers skip numerous one day games in english domestic cricket depriving batsman the opportunity to bridge the gap to international cricket

Can anyone rattle of half a dozen class one day batters we have produced in the last 20 years...
 
essex boy said:
Is this due to counties focus been on 4 day cricket, meaning a lot of 'quality' bowlers skip numerous one day games in english domestic cricket depriving batsman the opportunity to bridge the gap to international cricket

Can anyone rattle of half a dozen class one day batters we have produced in the last 20 years...
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Morgan
Fairbrother
Thorpe
Pietersen
Trescothick
Collingwood

Your point holds tho, check out this list for England players

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chunkylover53 said:
Morgan
Fairbrother
Thorpe
Pietersen
Trescothick
Collingwood

Your point holds tho, check out this list for England players

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Bit misleading in that of the people above Collingwood there's only 10 who played fewer games than him. The general point stands but that table also demonstrates how other countries play more ODIs than England.

And so it's 3 more ODI batsmen who weren't brought up on flat tracks? :lol:

Can we count Morgan?
 
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