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that bowden not out decision

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he told broad, it could not be LBW, due to in his opinion, it hit the bat.

fair enough

however, if that ball had rebounded away, in the air and was caught, then raina, who knew he had not hit it, went to review, it would have shown, it had not hit the bat

now how would bowden decide then, as it was plumb lbw, but it had been proven, by referral, that his decision was wrong as no bat was involved?

it is totally ridiculous, that the umpires and england are unable to use the full system and the ICC is pathetic in allowing india to dictate their opinion, especially as all the other teams have accepted DRS
 

stephen cartwright said:
he told broad, it could not be LBW, due to in his opinion, it hit the bat.

fair enough

however, if that ball had rebounded away, in the air and was caught, then raina, who knew he had not hit it, went to review, it would have shown, it had not hit the bat

now how would bowden decide then, as it was plumb lbw, but it had been proven, by referral, that his decision was wrong as no bat was involved?

it is totally ridiculous, that the umpires and england are unable to use the full system and the ICC is pathetic in allowing india to dictate their opinion, especially as all the other teams have accepted DRS
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what the little master whants the little master gets..... he hates the ball tracking system regarding lbw's apparently.
 
stephen cartwright said:
he told broad, it could not be LBW, due to in his opinion, it hit the bat.

fair enough

however, if that ball had rebounded away, in the air and was caught, then raina, who knew he had not hit it, went to review, it would have shown, it had not hit the bat

now how would bowden decide then, as it was plumb lbw, but it had been proven, by referral, that his decision was wrong as no bat was involved?

it is totally ridiculous, that the umpires and england are unable to use the full system and the ICC is pathetic in allowing india to dictate their opinion, especially as all the other teams have accepted DRS
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... or if England had appealed for a 'catch' even though no-one caught it. Would have shown the same thing. England knew full well he hadn't hit it.
 
Nope, you can't review LBW. If that had happend and they'd reviewed the catch, the decision still would have stood. And seeing as you can't show DRS review technology inside the ground (and that hawkeye is not available to the 3rd ump in this situation), nothing would have changed.

It's up to the ICC to standardise this, and with the IPL popularity on the way down, now is the time to take on the Indians and push it through.
 
Steak Pie said:
Nope, you can't review LBW. If that had happend and they'd reviewed the catch, the decision still would have stood. And seeing as you can't show DRS review technology inside the ground (and that hawkeye is not available to the 3rd ump in this situation), nothing would have changed.

It's up to the ICC to standardise this, and with the IPL popularity on the way down, now is the time to take on the Indians and push it through.
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They have. From October 1st it's fully mandatory in all series. The ICC are helping with the costs for those nations who can't afford the full set up.
 
Aleem Dar said:
They have. From October 1st it's fully mandatory in all series. The ICC are helping with the costs for those nations who can't afford the full set up.
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Good.

Need to take the dodgy decisions out of the game, can anybody say they didn't think 'money on it' when Bowden turned them two down? Need to change the mindset.
 
Steak Pie said:
Nope, you can't review LBW. If that had happend and they'd reviewed the catch, the decision still would have stood. And seeing as you can't show DRS review technology inside the ground (and that hawkeye is not available to the 3rd ump in this situation), nothing would have changed.

It's up to the ICC to standardise this, and with the IPL popularity on the way down, now is the time to take on the Indians and push it through.
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That's just for this series though, isn't it? I'm sure it's normally shown because when Sky are showing the hawkeye for a review the crowd cheers if it's out etc.
 
stephen cartwright said:
he told broad, it could not be LBW, due to in his opinion, it hit the bat.

fair enough

however, if that ball had rebounded away, in the air and was caught, then raina, who knew he had not hit it, went to review, it would have shown, it had not hit the bat

now how would bowden decide then, as it was plumb lbw, but it had been proven, by referral, that his decision was wrong as no bat was involved?

it is totally ridiculous, that the umpires and england are unable to use the full system and the ICC is pathetic in allowing india to dictate their opinion, especially as all the other teams have accepted DRS
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Very good. Try telling the ICC that, as I would be interested to see their reply. I actually think something similar has happened in the past, but can't remember the exact circumstances.

3.142 said:
... or if England had appealed for a 'catch' even though no-one caught it. Would have shown the same thing. England knew full well he hadn't hit it.
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Brilliant. A definite sign of a devious mind. Although I think the ump would just be able to say not out and we wouldn't want to use a review.
 
in the scenario i stated, bowden would have been made to look clueless, though he was facing away from the camera, he clearly stated to broad, it was out lbw but had hit the bat

the replays proved within seconds that was wrong.
 
Bowden made a bad mistake but is usually a good umpire. Rauf is one of best around as well.

We should just tell Sachin to piss off and use the technology.
 
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