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Sat 11th June - HCC 2nds Vs Beamish Home

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your last over was very good mate

Previous 13 balls were shite. I was lucky to only go for 9 off my 2.5 overs.

tbh i dont think you bowled as badly as some of the other supposedly "better" bowlers. Why didnt luke bowl as he's been one of our better bowlers. Thats the thing that gets me is a 14 year old kid can bowl to a field better than others!!

He'd knacked his knee or ankle or something chasing a ball. Supposedly.
 

tbh i dont think you bowled as badly as some of the other supposedly "better" bowlers. Why didnt luke bowl as he's been one of our better bowlers. Thats the thing that gets me is a 14 year old kid can bowl to a field better than others!!

he was complaining about his leg again and I completley agree
 
tbh i dont think you bowled as badly as some of the other supposedly "better" bowlers. Why didnt luke bowl as he's been one of our better bowlers. Thats the thing that gets me is a 14 year old kid can bowl to a field better than others!!

He knackered his hamstring fielding didn't he?
 
well if your ok to do it I will put your name forward to davey

also if not you who else would you promote?

Was more think along the lines of 3rd to 2nd team and 2s to 3s to get the best side (who put in effort after what was said in changing room).

Easy how simple things can get misconstrued.

After listening to what was said on Sunday by 1st teamers and 2nd teamers, if people aren't performing them drop them or move them. If some one is struggling in the first give them a break in the seconds, this is what has happened in happened at Whitburn and rebuilt confidence, then either the 1st get a fielder of a batter/bowler (who then usually fields fine leg both ends).

The only person who should have a guaranteed spot in any team is the Captain, because he's the captain.


I'm not currently in anywhere good enough form for anything but fielding for 1st team cricket, unlike yourself (not my words but those of several watching first teamers on Sunday)

If you want to put my name forward to Davey, that's your decision as Secretary, it's then up to him if he wants to select me but I'd play.....the thought of fielding for 40 odd overs and not getting a bat every week would probably mean in the long run I'd only available for Sundays, unless I suddenly get into my twenties and early thirties when I could play at that level and do reasonably well again but time travel ain't that likely.

Second teamers to first team currently based of form and ability - yourself and lee and possibly me.

1sts down I'm guessing from what was said the other day Adam could use a spell playing seconds.

help yourself to names of 2nd teamers to play 3rds and look at the stats for 3rds to 2nds. Phil, Rob, Craig, Chris, Jack and many more. They wouldn't dawdle around in the field there'd always be effort.

Just my opinion and its not having a go at anyone, just thoughts on a bit of recreational sport.
 
Was more think along the lines of 3rd to 2nd team and 2s to 3s to get the best side (who put in effort after what was said in changing room).

Easy how simple things can get misconstrued.

After listening to what was said on Sunday by 1st teamers and 2nd teamers, if people aren't performing them drop them or move them. If some one is struggling in the first give them a break in the seconds, this is what has happened in happened at Whitburn and rebuilt confidence, then either the 1st get a fielder of a batter/bowler (who then usually fields fine leg both ends).

The only person who should have a guaranteed spot in any team is the Captain, because he's the captain.


I'm not currently in anywhere good enough form for anything but fielding for 1st team cricket, unlike yourself (not my words but those of several watching first teamers on Sunday)

If you want to put my name forward to Davey, that's your decision as Secretary, it's then up to him if he wants to select me but I'd play.....the thought of fielding for 40 odd overs and not getting a bat every week would probably mean in the long run I'd only available for Sundays, unless I suddenly get into my twenties and early thirties when I could play at that level and do reasonably well again but time travel ain't that likely.

Second teamers to first team currently based of form and ability - yourself and lee and possibly me.

1sts down I'm guessing from what was said the other day Adam could use a spell playing seconds.

help yourself to names of 2nd teamers to play 3rds and look at the stats for 3rds to 2nds. Phil, Rob, Craig, Chris, Jack and many more. They wouldn't dawdle around in the field there'd always be effort.

Just my opinion and its not having a go at anyone, just thoughts on a bit of recreational sport.

you said firsts to seconds on your post mate and basically without mentioning my name put it that I should be going into the first team, I like youself won't be moving into the 1st team to bat 8 as it doesn't suit me or my game.

2nd to 3rds will be happening on a more regular basis now if people are prepared to play two games on a weekend but really that is upto them. If 3rds put their name down for saturday games the best possible team will be picked from now on, they could always play some sundays and some saturdays too.
 
you said firsts to seconds on your post mate and basically without mentioning my name put it that I should be going into the first team, I like youself won't be moving into the 1st team to bat 8 as it doesn't suit me or my game.

2nd to 3rds will be happening on a more regular basis now if people are prepared to play two games on a weekend but really that is upto them. If 3rds put their name down for saturday games the best possible team will be picked from now on, they could always play some sundays and some saturdays too.

I'm happy to play for either 2nds or 3rds but can only play one game per weekend. Mrs has decreed it :cry:
 
you said firsts to seconds on your post mate and basically without mentioning my name put it that I should be going into the first team, I like youself won't be moving into the 1st team to bat 8 as it doesn't suit me or my game.

2nd to 3rds will be happening on a more regular basis now if people are prepared to play two games on a weekend but really that is upto them. If 3rds put their name down for saturday games the best possible team will be picked from now on, they could always play some sundays and some saturdays too.

No mate, :eek: I was not saying that at all and apologies if that's what you read but that's not what I was trying to say. I was trying to say if someone in the firsts isn't having a good time drop them into the seconds for a couple of weeks to boost confidence and move players around who are doing well.

Yes your playing well at the moment and I'm chuffed to bits for you but I think you should stay where you are as we need you in the seconds. Or then our batting line up could become even more fragile.

available for selection, however after my 'performance' at the weekend I may be selected for the 4ths.

Should we not be looking to take those who can play on a Saturday and are doing well and promote then?

And or take those who are having a mare in the 1s to give them a chance to chill out and enjoy it a bit more in the 2s?


just a thought.

Should have said 3rds who can play on a Saturday and can improve the seconds, I was not making an inference at any names or players to move either way, I'm just here to play cricket bud.

Basically I was having a pop at myself for getting out and not having the best day behind the sticks hence the quip about being selected the the 4th team. The one we don't have.
 
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No mate, :eek: I was not saying that at all and apologies if that's what you read but that's not what I was trying to say. I was trying to say if someone in the firsts isn't having a good time drop them into the seconds for a couple of weeks to boost confidence and move players around who are doing well.

Yes your playing well at the moment and I'm chuffed to bits for you but I think you should stay where you are as we need you in the seconds. Or then our batting line up could become even more fragile.



Should have said 3rds who can play on a Saturday and can improve the seconds, I was not making an inference at any names or players to move either way, I'm just here to play cricket bud.

Basically I was having a pop at myself for getting out and not having the best day behind the sticks hence the quip about being selected the the 4th team. The one we don't have.

nee bother matter appologies to me for jumping to conclusions not the first tyime and no doubt won't be the last.

I think we are two players away from having a solid team 2nd team.
 
nee bother matter appologies to me for jumping to conclusions not the first tyime and no doubt won't be the last.

I think we are two players away from having a solid team 2nd team.

IMO, if the 2nds could obtain one of Pete/Phil/Tom on a regular basis for batting and one of Rob/Beefy/Craig S for bowling, with 2 from me/Jordan/Roy dropping down to the 3rds or all together for a couple of weeks then you'd see an improvement in the 2nds, and if Jordan could get some wickets for the 3rds we'd see his head lift again and back to bowling as we know he can.

The 1st/2nd/3rd team needs to be smooth and structured so people don't twist about not playing with their mates etc. And I fully accept that Beefy/Rob/Phil can't play on a Saturday every week but even the occasional week it might give everyone else a lift.

Personally, I feel as though I'm only playing at the moment because the 2nds are short on numbers. I'll always give 100% in the field and if required to bowl/bat but I'm under no illusions that there are better players waiting in the wings to take my place. Could happen this week.
 
nee bother matter appologies to me for jumping to conclusions not the first tyime and no doubt won't be the last.

I think we are two players away from having a solid team 2nd team.

I would suggest 3

opening bat, opening bowler and a decent change bowler who can bat a bit but I know where your coming from. Unless were getting Ando back.
 
IMO, if the 2nds could obtain one of Pete/Phil/Tom on a regular basis for batting and one of Rob/Beefy/Craig S for bowling, with 2 from me/Jordan/Roy dropping down to the 3rds or all together for a couple of weeks then you'd see an improvement in the 2nds, and if Jordan could get some wickets for the 3rds we'd see his head lift again and back to bowling as we know he can.

The 1st/2nd/3rd team needs to be smooth and structured so people don't twist about not playing with their mates etc. And I fully accept that Beefy/Rob/Phil can't play on a Saturday every week but even the occasional week it might give everyone else a lift.

Personally, I feel as though I'm only playing at the moment because the 2nds are short on numbers. I'll always give 100% in the field and if required to bowl/bat but I'm under no illusions that there are better players waiting in the wings to take my place. Could happen this week.

infairness mate Rob will also be picking his strongest side and I can't blame him for that. You have done ok in the 2nds and have been picked not as we have been short but as a bowling option. People really need to start taking the chances they're given as well.
 
infairness mate Rob will also be picking his strongest side and I can't blame him for that. You have done ok in the 2nds and have been picked not as we have been short but as a bowling option. People really need to start taking the chances they're given as well.

I agree entirely that Rob should be picking his strongest team, but if players become available for both days they should be considered for both games. Although if they don't have their name down, they can't be picked.

And I also agree: re taking chances. I haven't because my last 2 overs vs Belmont were gash, as was my first 2 yesterday. Hopefully if I play more I will bowl more, but that's Lees decision as captain and I won't twist if I bowl 2 overs or 10.
 
Only thing I would pick up on in this thread is the comment that more people should be playing double weekends to improve the 2s/3s. To me that's unfair as for every person who doubles up that means a committed member won't get any game whatsoever.

Fair enough play to win but the above policy shafts people and will lose the club good lads in the long run. Last I heard general policy was that 33 spots = 33 players with the odd exception for cups etc...
 
Only thing I would pick up on in this thread is the comment that more people should be playing double weekends to improve the 2s/3s. To me that's unfair as for every person who doubles up that means a committed member won't get any game whatsoever.

Fair enough play to win but the above policy shafts people and will lose the club good lads in the long run. Last I heard general policy was that 33 spots = 33 players with the odd exception for cups etc...

well if we keep to that then we need at least one player to step up from the 3rds but that isn't going to happen.
 
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well if we keep to that then we need at least one player to step up from the 3rds but that isn't going to happen.

Fair enough mate. Wouldn't be adverse to 3s having to take the odd junior in rather than 2s blooding them. It always happens that there is the odd player playing at a level below though for whatever reason. Just get a bee in my bonnet about everyone getting a fair go as you know...

Whatever happens though it's probably worth taking a step back and admiring the shape that the club's in. From struggling to put out 2 teams in 2009 it now has 4 crammed with players and you in particular need to take a lot of credit for that. All the sides are losing a few but the bigger picture is good.
 
Fair enough mate. Wouldn't be adverse to 3s having to take the odd junior in rather than 2s blooding them. It always happens that there is the odd player playing at a level below though for whatever reason. Just get a bee in my bonnet about everyone getting a fair go as you know...

Whatever happens though it's probably worth taking a step back and admiring the shape that the club's in. From struggling to put out 2 teams in 2009 it now has 4 crammed with players and you in particular need to take a lot of credit for that. All the sides are losing a few but the bigger picture is good.

in a perfect world it would be great to give everybody a game but in reality we need to be competative and tbf it will be much easier for the fringe players to come in and make a difference if we are performing well.

edd you can have paul mills.:lol:

he wouldn't get into our team;)
 
Personally I think there is a few players at houghton that could be swapped around to benefit all 3 teams.
Obviously it's not as easy as that, somepeople don't want to swap for various reasons.
I always think though that if your good enough then you should play at the highest standard available.

I won't name anyone, but I do think there is a couple of 2nd teamers that could come into the 1st's and are better then what we have got.

After watching the 3rds there is definetly players who would get wickets and score runs at 2nd team level.

But as I say it's all about preference, and if your not enjoying your Saturdays then it isn't worth your while. Still believe that everyone should want to prove themselves at the highest level available.
 
After reading through some good points made by all. To be fair i didn't realise that the 2s were struggling. I'm not sure if all the lads who regularly only put their names down for the 3s realise that the selection policy is that open to all teams. Hopefully after reading this thread they that will change.
As for me I have said before that Its difficult for me to play Saturday and only have my name down this week as the 3s don't have a game and I won't be available for the 2 weeks after so I don't really want to go without a game for a month. I will try to be available for a couple of Saturdays if it helps all out.

Just so its open because the 3s great leader wasn't aware this past week.
If selected for the 2s this week I won't be available to bowl.
 
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