Dan Neil injured

Why sack Durban said:
Wharton is a very good passer . Takes risks and wants to play forward all the time . Neil is a very good player but under pressure he’s not as good at receiving it or passing it forward as well as Wharton .
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Dan Neil is more accurate over short, medium and long distances. More passes into the final third. More progressive passes. More shots created from passes in open play.

Wharton's a good player, I rate him. Neil is currently a better passer*

*Marginally and it may change in future
 


woodlebert said:
Dan Neil is more accurate over short, medium and long distances. More passes into the final third. More progressive passes. More shots created from passes in open play.

Wharton's a good player, I rate him. Neil is currently a better passer*

*Marginally and it may change in future
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Do the stats tell you how quickly he does it or where he his when he gets it . Wharton is better than a good player
 
Why sack Durban said:
Do the stats tell you how quickly he does it or where he his when he gets it . Wharton is better than a good player
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Yes you can see where they touch the ball broken up by both boxes, then thirds of the pitch. So 5 areas in total.

I think he’s good. Probably comes down to how you define “good” which will be a personal / semantics thing. He’s not “very good” or “great” (yet), nor is Neil
 
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horselover said:
He was outstanding at Anfield last week
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He’s an outstanding young player
woodlebert said:
Yes you can see where they touch the ball broken up by both boxes, then thirds of the pitch. So 5 areas in total.

I think he’s good. Probably comes down to how you define “good” which will be a personal / semantics thing. He’s not “very good” or “great” (yet), nor is Neil
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Not trying to be difficult here but it doesn’t tell you how quickly he moves it forward and how he much pressure he’s under when he gets it . Blackburn should have hammered us at their place and the way they passed it quickly and forward was superb
 
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Why sack Durban said:
Not trying to be difficult here but it doesn’t tell you how quickly he moves it forward and how he much pressure he’s under when he gets it . Blackburn should have hammered us at their place and the way they passed it quickly and forward was superb
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Not being difficult at all.

One could divide touches by passes to work out how many touches per pass which would be helpful if you were interested in speed of action.

“Pressure” is trickier but you can also look at their dribbles and particularly the success of their “take ons” to look at how they do under pressure
 
Why sack Durban said:
He’s an outstanding young player

Not trying to be difficult here but it doesn’t tell you how quickly he moves it forward and how he much pressure he’s under when he gets it . Blackburn should have hammered us at their place and the way they passed it quickly and forward was superb
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Are you Wharton’s dad? Six consecutive posts about how great he is, on a thread about Dan Neil, when nobody is even criticising Wharton.
 
woodlebert said:
I have been very careful to highlight how much I like Wharton. I’m glad it didn’t come across like I didn’t. He’s a good player & deserves a crack at the top flight
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Yep. I also think he looks good from the limited amount I’ve seen of him. Looks like a different type of player to Neil too, so there’s only so much mileage in making a direct comparison.
 
1more said:
It's a bizarre way of him saying he doesn't rate Neil. Look at his posting history on Neil
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I’ll take your word for it.

It’s good to hear different points of view.

A few people seem uber keen to chime in whenever Neil is mentioned in a positive light, which is fine.

It’s just the repetition.
 
1more said:
It's a bizarre way of him saying he doesn't rate Neil. Look at his posting history on Neil
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No it isn’t . I think Neil is a good player . I think he’s very nice to watch . He is very inconsistent in the last third and sometimes doesn’t get his head up under pressure . Wharton is doing more against world class players where it is quicker and more physical
 
Why sack Durban said:
No it isn’t . I think Neil is a good player . I think he’s very nice to watch . He is very inconsistent in the last third and sometimes doesn’t get his head up under pressure . Wharton is doing more against world class players where it is quicker and more physical
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You've probably watched Wharton no more than 5 times and formed an opinion that he's world class.

Neil was far better than him when we played them the beginning of the season
 

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