The Butcher
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Signed up for this, gonna do the On RAmp this week. Anyone do it ?? The idea of it is good but not sure I can commit to it as much as I should. Interested in getting stronger and a bit more chunk on top.
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Charmless Man
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Must admit, I have literally no idea what it is despite hearing about it all the time.
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Really not a fan.
High rep Oly lifting, especially in a state of fatigue, ESPECIALLY when half the people doing the lifts don't know how to execute them is stupid.
Some good CF coaches out there, but don't like the thing as a concept.
Interesting a study was also published on it recently and the injury statistics were quite worrying. A relatively high number of subjects (who had a mean training experience in CF of like 1.5 years) needed surgical intervention.
It does have some plus points though, mainly in that it gets people in the gym and (if taught correctly), gets people using barbell movements as the core of their training.
High rep Oly lifting, especially in a state of fatigue, ESPECIALLY when half the people doing the lifts don't know how to execute them is stupid.
Some good CF coaches out there, but don't like the thing as a concept.
Interesting a study was also published on it recently and the injury statistics were quite worrying. A relatively high number of subjects (who had a mean training experience in CF of like 1.5 years) needed surgical intervention.
It does have some plus points though, mainly in that it gets people in the gym and (if taught correctly), gets people using barbell movements as the core of their training.
did a taster session on saturday. Doing an on ramp next monday.
Enjoyed it but you really do have to concentrate on form as it so high rep and there's too many people for the trainer to study. the taster was:
warm up:
1km row
9 push ups/9 suspended rows
7 " "/ 7 " "
5 " " / 5 " "
technique:
sitting rope climbs. From a sitting position pull yourself to standing position.
WOD:
10x 40kg push press
10x 24" box jumps
1x sitting rope climb
9x 40kg push press
9x 24" box jump
1x sitting rope climb
8x ............down to 1 rep.
Where are you doing it at?
As Titus says, good points being it gets people in the gym and its varied. Bad points being the lack of form taught in some places, you only have to look on youtube to see that some places give it a bad name.
Enjoyed it but you really do have to concentrate on form as it so high rep and there's too many people for the trainer to study. the taster was:
warm up:
1km row
9 push ups/9 suspended rows
7 " "/ 7 " "
5 " " / 5 " "
technique:
sitting rope climbs. From a sitting position pull yourself to standing position.
WOD:
10x 40kg push press
10x 24" box jumps
1x sitting rope climb
9x 40kg push press
9x 24" box jump
1x sitting rope climb
8x ............down to 1 rep.
Where are you doing it at?
As Titus says, good points being it gets people in the gym and its varied. Bad points being the lack of form taught in some places, you only have to look on youtube to see that some places give it a bad name.
Lewberry pie
Striker
sounds good but could be dangerous, someone posted a video of a lass lifting a good weight which was overhead push press, front squat overhead push press the back squat, the problem was she was dropping the weight onto her shoulders and could easily get hurt, id use very very low weights and it would be fine imo.
The Butcher
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Totally understand the concerns lads, I thought about that myself, I have done plenty circuits classes and do a bit running so a lot of this will be new. As I say not sure if I can commit to the time needed to get the techniques and that right but wouldnt mind learning the olympic lifting styles as a starter....at the end of the day I just want a few sessions per week to get stronger and get a bit weight on up top. Will see how it goes and maybe move on to something else if no good. I can assure you won't be slinging heavy weight s about just yet as I think I would struggle to do 40kg bench press !! 
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Mick Dundee
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A guy I went to school with and used to play five aside with operates a (or rather the only) Crossfit gym in Dundee. However, as Puregym are still only charging me £10.99 (long after the 12 month introductory period) and he is £50 a month, I've never given it a go.
Thurston
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I wouldn't do Crossfit, then.[DOUBLEPOST=1392128387][/DOUBLEPOST]
This. It's just asking for trouble. Plus, there's a reason Olympic Weightlifters, who are some of the strongest, fittest and most flexible athletes in the world and have perfected the techniques will only do four reps max and then take long rest periods.
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southwestsafc
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I'm a big fan of it, for all round fitness it takes some beating!
Thurston
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Oh when you see pics of the Crossfit games etc it looks cool as fuck, but as an overall training system I'm not entirely convinced. Jack of all trades and master of none, springs to mind. Nonetheless, I keep meaning to read Rich Froning's book actually, but having said that, I'm 99.9% certain he didn't win the Crossfit Games by training with WOD's.
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southwestsafc
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Jack of all trades master of none is fine for me, I'm never going to exel in any fields at my stage of the game and crossfit is just one workout to keep my all round phys as good as it's going to be! Can see the problems though if people are going balls out with bad technique !
The Spezial One
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Rich Froning didn't get that body from Crossfit. False advertising Reebok, false advertising.
Thurston
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Fair enough mate. It wasn't really meant as a criticism. It's personal preference and depends entirely what your personal goals are and what you hope to get out of training. I think it certainly seem to be as good as anything if you just generally enjoy exercising, want to lose a few pounds and wish to get the weighlifting equivalent of a "runners high."
I like how they're currently sponsoring Oly Weightlifting monster Klokov on a World Crossfit tour doing training sessions etc. Which to be fair, if it raises the profile of Weightlifting, encourages correct technique and can subsequently stop people getting injured is win/win.Rich Froning didn't get that body from Crossfit. False advertising Reebok, false advertising.
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southwestsafc
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No offence taken. Just going out for a runners high now!
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Mark Bell, Klovok, people at or from Westside like Louie, A.J Roberts, Laura Sweatt etc have all been raising the profile of it. Infact, A.J Roberts competed in crossfit after he retired from powerlifting when he set his world record.
The guys at the top of crossfit aren't doing typical crossfit workouts. I don't really have an issue with that, I just wish that more of these coaches would actually progressively teach the complicated lifts over a long period of time and then use other methods for the metabolic fatigue, strength, endurance etc aspects.
The amount of crossfit trainees that were questioned in that recent study who needed surgical intervention within their first 18 months was high.
Under the guidance of a good, honest coach, decent concept. Under a lot of these idiots cashing in on a recent trend, bad idea.
The guys at the top of crossfit aren't doing typical crossfit workouts. I don't really have an issue with that, I just wish that more of these coaches would actually progressively teach the complicated lifts over a long period of time and then use other methods for the metabolic fatigue, strength, endurance etc aspects.
The amount of crossfit trainees that were questioned in that recent study who needed surgical intervention within their first 18 months was high.
Under the guidance of a good, honest coach, decent concept. Under a lot of these idiots cashing in on a recent trend, bad idea.
Thurston
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Wasn't there a thing where at one point you could become a qualified crossfit coach in a day for like $300 dollars or something? I'd add Rippetoe to that list too actually, he's usually slating it as a training system, but some of the work he did with Crossfit regarding squats and form can only be a good thing.
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Supposed to say Klokov, obviously
I'm sure he wrote an article not long back on Crossfit where I agreed with most of it.
Regardless of who it was, they made the point that it gets people in the gym focussing on compound barbell movements. And you know what, if it gets somebody in the gym and they're doing it relatively safely - great.
I'm sure he wrote an article not long back on Crossfit where I agreed with most of it.
Regardless of who it was, they made the point that it gets people in the gym focussing on compound barbell movements. And you know what, if it gets somebody in the gym and they're doing it relatively safely - great.
this is my main issue with it. You're against the clock doing often complex lifts, there is the danger of form slipping. That said, the coaches where I do it are pretty good and burpee fines are dished out for bad form.
Thurston
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Was that on T-Nation? I've seen a couple he's done like that. I just like how Rippetoe is basically stuck in his ways and will troll anyone whose life doesn't solely revolve around squatting.Supposed to say Klokov, obviously
I'm sure he wrote an article not long back on Crossfit where I agreed with most of it.
Regardless of who it was, they made the point that it gets people in the gym focussing on compound barbell movements. And you know what, if it gets somebody in the gym and they're doing it relatively safely - great.
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