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65% of the ball, 16 more shots at goal? hey did hammer us and we wont get away with playing like that against any other top teams

thats bollocks. passing round and doing nowt with it except long range shots isnt hammering anybody. when we played the mags we were the better team but some said we were hammered because tiote kept shooting from range into the stands. its bollocks
 
65% of the ball, 16 more shots at goal? hey did hammer us and we wont get away with playing like that against any other top teams

1 header wide by Diarra and several routine long range efforts on target doesn't consist to a hammering.

It's the whole boring Swansea style of football, argument all over again.
 
They created as many good chances as us, passing about 45-50 yards from goal and long range shooting does not mean we were hammered.



We concede far too much of the ball every time we play, 9 times out of 10 france would have beat us in that game. When we meet italy or spain in the next round we're going home, sadly
 
We concede far too much of the ball every time we play, 9 times out of 10 france would have beat us in that game. When we meet italy or spain in the next round we're going home, sadly

not if they try to play like france tippy tapping the ball around and unable to break us. dont open up for them and weve got a chance
 
We concede far too much of the ball every time we play, 9 times out of 10 france would have beat us in that game. When we meet italy or spain in the next round we're going home, sadly

Ah the good old "9 times out of 10 but not this time" argument :lol:

Spain who played with no strikers? 66% of the ball they had yet done little with it.

Italy who only had 34% of the ball?
 
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not if they try to play like france tippy tapping the ball around and unable to break us. dont open up for them and weve got a chance

Thing is though teams like Italy play the same way as we do, but are 10x better going forward and actually try to beat teams, this going 1-0 up malarky and trying to hang on is suicide. Like the pundits say, be interesting to see what happens when we go behind in a match

Ah the good old "9 times out of 10 but not this time" argument :lol:

Spain who played with no strikers?

Don't have to play with strikers with a midfield like theirs marra, they's have no problems putting england to bed.

Ah the good old "9 times out of 10 but not this time" argument :lol:

Spain who played with no strikers?

Don't have to play with strikers with a midfield like theirs marra, they'd have no problems putting england to bed.


Sorry ffr double post
 
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We concede far too much of the ball every time we play, 9 times out of 10 france would have beat us in that game. When we meet italy or spain in the next round we're going home, sadly

The whole reason we're set up like this is because we can't keep possession.

Other teams can have as much of the ball as they like, If they don't create anymore chances than we do because of our defensive shape it means nothing.
 
Yes, italy are better than england and are regarded as the best defensive team in the world.

and 9 times out of 10 theyd beat us. as youve already pointed out, this means little on the day. defend well, hold the line, block them at their game and youve got em.
 
Yes, italy are better than england and are regarded as the best defensive team in the world.

I think our defence is much better than the Italian defence. In fact I think we're better than Italy and would rather play them than Croatia or Spain

99.9% would agree Spain would beat us, so to start spouting stuff such as "spain would beat us" is hardly rocket science is it?
 
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I think our defence is much better than the Italian defence. In fact I think we're better than Italy and would rather play them than Croatia or Spain

99.9% would agree Spain would beat us, so to start spouting stuff such as "spain would beat us" is hardly rocket science is it?

Id say only ashley cole is better than what theyve got tbh mate. Chiellini and bonucci are better than what we ahve. As for de rossi and parker :lol::lol:

Glenn johnson and their right back is a close on though as i havent seen much of him

Buffon is also better than joe hart atm
 
Don't have to play with strikers with a midfield like theirs marra, they'd have no problems putting england to bed.

They'd have a much better chance if we tried to attack them, It's also the same players that couldn't put Chelsea away minus Messi.
 
Thing is though teams like Italy play the same way as we do, but are 10x better going forward and actually try to beat teams, this going 1-0 up malarky and trying to hang on is suicide. Like the pundits say, be interesting to see what happens when we go behind in a match



Don't have to play with strikers with a midfield like theirs marra, they's have no problems putting england to bed.



Don't have to play with strikers with a midfield like theirs marra, they'd have no problems putting england to bed.


Sorry ffr double post

Utter bollocks.
 
They'd have a much better chance if we tried to attack them, It's also the same players that couldn't put Chelsea away minus Messi.

Yep england wont have lampard mikel essien, mata, drogba, torres, luiz and cahill in there team though

Utter bollocks.

Utter bollocks as to you don't have to play strikers or they wouldn't put England to bed? Next match they'll most likely drop fabregas and play torres or llorente anyway so i dont see that being a problem again
 
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