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doesnt matter which we you look at it, we are shite. 2 banks of 4 who pass it sideways or to the keeper before its hooooooooof for some headless chicken to chase down. and repeat. it got us a good point but fuck me, it was woeful to watch.

and those sayin it is effective. :roll: we will be found out sharpish IF we get through the group.

Given the players we have available Hodgson is going the right way about it, if we're succesfull playing ugly then fine by me.

We've tried getting in a foreign coach in the hope of a foreign style of play, its failed. We may as well play to our strengths.
 
Given the players we have available Hodgson is going the right way about it, if we're succesfull playing ugly then fine by me.

We've tried getting in a foreign coach in the hope of a foreign style of play, its failed. We may as well play to our strengths.

Exactly. We clearly don't have the players to be able to take control of games and play free flowing, attacking football. We tried that in South Africa and we couldn't even properly break down Algeria and Slovenia.

The current lot are a much better unit than the 'Golden generation' ever were (Obviously a few of them are still there but we're heading in the right direction). They all know their jobs and they implement a system that suits them. If we can get success playing this way then there will be no complaints from me.
 
doesnt matter which we you look at it, we are shite. 2 banks of 4 who pass it sideways or to the keeper before its hooooooooof for some headless chicken to chase down. and repeat. it got us a good point but fuck me, it was woeful to watch.

and those sayin it is effective. :roll: we will be found out sharpish IF we get through the group.

Thought we played some nice stuff at times mesel like.
 
doesnt matter which we you look at it, we are shite. 2 banks of 4 who pass it sideways or to the keeper before its hooooooooof for some headless chicken to chase down. and repeat. it got us a good point but fuck me, it was woeful to watch.

No idea what game you watched. We created as much as they did with some good passing, and would have created a lot more without that Mag prick stopping every attack with a foul and getting away with it.
 
This is why I don't venture over to PF very much, people always try to team up on you and force their opinions onto you, and if you don't accept them you get abused, told to leave and accused of being a WUM.

Fact is, I like watching proper pass and move, quick football, not park the bus football. And I think, teams that park the bus don't deserve any recognition or reward for those tactics.

I put it to you that Chelsea's method of winning the Champions League took just as much (probably more) effort, preparation and skill as Barcelona's. Please explain why they deserve no reward for this.
 
doesnt matter which we you look at it, we are shite. 2 banks of 4 who pass it sideways or to the keeper before its hooooooooof for some headless chicken to chase down. and repeat. it got us a good point but fuck me, it was woeful to watch.

and those sayin it is effective. :roll: we will be found out sharpish IF we get through the group.

How do you view our win against Man. City? I thought despite their possession they didn't (weren't allowed to) batter our goal and we deserved the win - we created better chances on the break.

England didn't create enough chances to win so a draw was a fair result, imo.

Man. City > Sunlun and France > England but, on the day, both underdogs deserved what they got.
 
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I await to see the percentage stats and pass completion rates before deciding whether Holland played well last night.

:lol: I thought the only stat that counted was how many dozen shots Robben blasted owa the bar ;)
 
I put it to you that Chelsea's method of winning the Champions League took just as much (probably more) effort, preparation and skill as Barcelona's. Please explain why they deserve no reward for this.

Whilst I dont agree, Im surprised you see his opinion as a new concept, or one that you struggle to understand?

People in general like to see passing, flowing football. From that stems the notion that these are "proper" football teams, and that teams set out like Chelsea did, design to "kill" games off, to stem their oppostions passing. Are you really struggling to see that, or just playing up?

I dont necessarily agree, and think defensive displays such as Chelsea's, and Inter Milan recently too, deserve just as much recognition as the other.

Just let him have his opinion

Great saves, really?

Bloody hell mate, are you having a laugh? Point blank header from a corner (or was it just a cross) from a header, for one?

Benxama's shot that was going in, that Terry headed away, the Cabaye shot that was defelcted wide from Welbeck. Or are these not threats to you?

They had quite a few clear cut chances. We did very very well in defence, but you cant say they didnt threaten.
 
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Bloody hell mate, are you having a laugh? Point blank header from a corner (or was it just a cross) from a header, for one?

Benxama's shot that was going in, that Terry headed away, the Cabaye shot that was defelcted wide from Welbeck. Or are these not threats to you?

They had quite a few clear cut chances. We did very very well in defence, but you cant say they didnt threaten.


The header was the only 'great'ish save.

The others were long range efforts.
 
In fact, watching that video, makes the suggestion France never threatened even more laughable.
 
So there were some great saves, then aye? So France DID threaten? If we include the France shots that other people blocked and deflected?

Just incase anyone needs to see that save again, if they were thinking of re-writing history (a SMB trait)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npKUNDEKxvQ

France rarely threatened, one good chance and the rest long range efforts.

You're talking utter f***ing shite.

Bloody hell mate, are you having a laugh? Point blank header from a corner (or was it just a cross) from a header, for one?

Benxama's shot that was going in, that Terry headed away, the Cabaye shot that was defelcted wide from Welbeck. Or are these not threats to you?

They had quite a few clear cut chances. We did very very well in defence, but you cant say they didnt threaten.

I didn't, I said they rarely threatend.
 
The header was the only 'great'ish save.

The others were long range efforts.

Ah, so now youre saying there was a great save?!

And do long range efforts, heading towards the bottom corner, that required a full diving save, not count?! (Nasri)

Anyway, The block from Benzama, the hear post save from Ribery. Not world class saves, but still signs that France threatened on quite a few occasions.

Youre having a mare.
 
Ah, so now youre saying there was a great save?!

And do long range efforts, heading towards the bottom corner, that required a full diving save, not count?! (Nasri)

Anyway, The block from Benzama, the hear post save from Ribery. Not world class saves, but still signs that France threatened on quite a few occasions.

Youre having a mare.

You said great saves
You've jumped in with both feet and making points against things I didn't say.

If anyones having a mare its you.
 
France rarely threatened, one good chance and the rest long range efforts.

You're talking utter f***ing shite.



I didn't, I said they rarely threatend.

So how many times do teams normally get into the box and threaten? They had 21 shots, Ive counted Hart having to make 6 saves, 4 of which came from in the box. Welbeck and Terry both blocking on target shots.

For me, that is above the average "threats" in a game. And again, the rest werent long range efforts, they were in our box quite a bit.

I think outside the SMB, it is widely accepted that France - in all but goals (which is the thing that matters) hammered us.

You said great saves
You've jumped in with both feet and making points against things I didn't say.

If anyones having a mare its you.

Haha, really?! You said they hardly threatened. You said there were no great saves, then back tracked into saying "yeah, well that was the only great-ish save) You also said that the rest were long range efforts. They weren't. And Ive had the mare, becasue I spoke in plural (and you could consider the dive to the bottom left post by Nasri as a great save..that is subjective, not FACT)

Silly man.
 
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