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Did i? saying i don't want england to lose is stupid is it?

saying youll find it funny when people see what youre saying is stupid., all youve said has been daft. we played a better french side and used tactics to accomodate that, doing fairly well i might say. we got it right
 
saying youll find it funny when people see what youre saying is stupid., all youve said has been daft. we played a better french side and used tactics to accomodate that, doing fairly well i might say. we got it right

Saying we'll get punished playing the way we have been is daft? What's daft about hat statement marra
 
Saying we'll get punished playing the way we have been is daft? What's daft about hat statement marra

if we play against teams like that, trying to keep possesion and pass it around then im not sure why we would get punished for playing like we did. its the only way to play against it, wed be punished if we didnt play like that
 
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Dont know what worse people reading the pile of shite

or them printing it

:lol:

Or breakfast morning news showing the papers headlines
 
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:roll::roll: We'll see

Euro 2010 means nowt to me, it's all about WC 2014. Roy has had these lads for 6 weeks.

If England played 4-4-2 and went all out attack last night and lost 3-0, you and many others would be on here whinging saying "why the fuck play 4-4-2 and go all out attack when we don't have the players to do it" or words to that meaning. Never pleasing some people
 
Euro 2010 means nowt to me, it's all about WC 2014. Roy has had these lads for 6 weeks.

If England played 4-4-2 and went all out attack last night and lost 3-0, you and many others would be on here whinging saying "why the fuck play 4-4-2 and go all out attack when we don't have the players to do it" or words to that meaning. Never pleasing some people

You're wrong, i'd like to see 4-3-3
 
Some seem to be suggesting that if we play like we did last night we have very little chance in the knockout stage (if we get there). Firstly, I'd say that people were saying the very same about Greece when they won it- if you're going to defend a lot and hope to catch teams out you'll need a lot of luck (a dodgy penalty decision or a deflected shot could put you in trouble) but then that's true however you play.

The main thing though is that however we play we'll struggle like fuck in the knockout stages- hell, even if we win the group you could expect a run of Italy in the QF, Germany in the semi and then Holland or Spain in the final. Come second in the group and its probably Spain in the QF, Holland in the semi and Germany in the final. Italy, Germany, Spain or Spain, Holland, Germany it really makes very little difference, there is no way through the tournament that looks "easy" so yes, playing defensively we are highly unlikely to get all the way through but then playing an attacking style we're highly unlikely to get all the way through either, we're simply not that good a side. Bearing that in mind, all Hodgson can do is set out the way he thinks gives us the best chance of progressing as far as possible and to that end I agree with his set up against France and would expect the same against any of the sides I've listed.

I do want to see us a bit more attacking against Sweden and Ukraine though as we should be stronger than either and we do need to get at least one win from the next two. Mind Sweden will need to get a win against us so maybe letting them attack us and then hitting them when they overcommit might be the best tactic, I think we can trust Hodgson enough to leave that call up to him.
 
Must be on a wind up because I hate negative football?

Do you not take any pleasure in the art of defending? Or the way a manager/coach can win a game through tactics? Those two factors are much a part of football as attacking.

Yes we did play negatively, at times, but that was because we knew we simply arent able to match some of the more flair teams at their own game.

Put it this way, if we are to get anywhere near the final we are going to have to play like that again. If not, we'll leave ourselves open and wil be on the end of a hiding.

Edit: One thing we need to improve on is keeping hold of the ball. We spend far too long without the ball, which means we are chasing. Eventually that will catch up the players. It looked like we were hanging out of our arses the last 15 minutes. If we arent able to keep the ball we need to be smart and 'buy' free kicks.
 
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doesnt matter which we you look at it, we are shite. 2 banks of 4 who pass it sideways or to the keeper before its hooooooooof for some headless chicken to chase down. and repeat. it got us a good point but fuck me, it was woeful to watch.

and those sayin it is effective. :roll: we will be found out sharpish IF we get through the group.
 
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