Worst SAFC manager: MON or Bruce?


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Bruce wasn't even that bad until the last few months. His post-sacking comments left a bitter taste with many, but he won't go down as one of the worst Sunderland managers of the modern era.

O'Neill on the other hand...

His one redeeming feature was bringing in Steven Fletcher, and hopefully Johnson will end up proving his worth.
 
Bruce wasn't even that bad until the last few months. His post-sacking comments left a bitter taste with many, but he won't go down as one of the worst Sunderland managers of the modern era.

O'Neill on the other hand...

His one redeeming feature was bringing in Steven Fletcher, and hopefully Johnson will end up proving his worth.
Largely agree. 0-3 vs Chelsea was one of the best performances I've seen Sunderland play. (if not the best) We tore them a new one.

His main criticism was 'relying' on loan players and not being able to keep our best players. But that's going to always be the case with us unless we have a good season one year and get into Europe. I thought it was quite a shrewd appointment at the time, but nothing can really match Paolo's passion and energy. As fans, we don't treat football like a business, but the managers have to. Getting the balance right is difficult.

For what it's worth, I think MON just didn't have the energy any more. He kept us up and got it completely wrong with rebuilding.
 
Energy or not, O'Neill has a reputation of counter attacking (and often turgid) football and spending tens of millions on average players.

That nobody still seems to take this in from his Aston Villa days still baffles me, even now that we've seen it with our own team. Where he got them in the league was no better than was expected at the time, yet people thought he'd do something similar with us. It's absolutely bizarre.
 
We played nice passing football under Bruce, and we could attack then, I remember watching Jones and Bent.
Yet he did make bad signings.

However, MON, we could have gave him more time...however much of that time would have been in the championship now.

Having said that, I think we are heading there now if I was to judge from the first 2 games of the season.
 
I remember Matt Piper (RIP) mentioning he was going to play them a video when he came. After they'd watched they were going to be playing freeflowing, pressure-free, sublime football. Naturally the players were expecting some sort of footballing expertise - highlights of the Brazil team from the 70s.

Swans flying in formation. :lol:

Eh? He's a development coach at Leicester isn't he?
 
Largely agree. 0-3 vs Chelsea was one of the best performances I've seen Sunderland play. (if not the best) We tore them a new one.

His main criticism was 'relying' on loan players and not being able to keep our best players. But that's going to always be the case with us unless we have a good season one year and get into Europe. I thought it was quite a shrewd appointment at the time, but nothing can really match Paolo's passion and energy. As fans, we don't treat football like a business, but the managers have to. Getting the balance right is difficult.

For what it's worth, I think MON just didn't have the energy any more. He kept us up and got it completely wrong with rebuilding.
No, his main criticism was being a mediocre manager buying Gardners, Turners and Cattermoles, managing a team heading for relegation. People want to rewrite history for some reason.
 
No, his main criticism was being a mediocre manager buying Gardners, Turners and Cattermoles, managing a team heading for relegation. People want to rewrite history for some reason.
The same Turner that played against Chelsea? The same Cattermole who many on here were tipping for an England in the future, at the time? I'm not the one rewriting history.

Gardner's been shite mind.
 
could be argued that our current plans and development are being hindered by Bruces transfers rather than o'neils, so bruce's legacy is still having a negative affect on the team unlike o'neils.
 
MON. Still have a lot of respect for him though and the only time he has 'failed' in his managerial career happened to be with us. No doubt he got hit with the curse of sunderland.

Ironic, really. He certainly had none for Sunderland. He took the f***ing piss.
 
Bruce.

Simply because of the 'summer of shame' of 2011.

That transfer window has set us back years. £8m on Wickham. £6m on Craig f***ing Gardner.

Nine of the eleven he signed that summer are still here collecting no doubt an obscene wage; only O'Shea can be considered as a relative success from that disastrous bout of transfer activity.

O'Neill came in and gave it a go at polishing a turd, he managed it for a short while but he obviously had lost/was losing interest in the game by the second season - as a once proud and successful manager he was clearly giving up hope - the shower he was having to deal with no doubt gave him little reason to reignite his optimism.

We're still lumbered with most of that shit - seven of them involved this Saturday. Bruce, you big fat cunt, you knew what you were doing that summer - totally screwing us over.

Horseshit
 
MON by some great distance - his tactics were shit, the players he bought were over-priced (we even paid over the odds for Fletcher when you compare him to players with similar goal tallys last season, and he was MON's saving grace)... the football we played under MON was some of the most tedious, frustrating and dire i've seen as a Sunderland fan (I am only 20 in all fairness)
and despite Bruce leaving us with a f***ing hideous squad it was O'Neill that gave some of them extended contracts making them harder to shift
for most of his time at Sunderland, Bruce did alright, a 10th place finish, some canny games against the better teams in the league like Arsenal, Chelsea etc.... and as many have said at one point he had a great squad with Bent, Gyan, Henderson, Malbranque, Zenden..... Bruces downfall here was the pathetic games against the scum, his 15 end of season winless runs, and THAT horrific transfer window
so MON was the worse of the two evils, if he had stayed we were certain to go down, we probably would have been beat by those mag bastards or scrapped a pathetic draw, and we would have been left in an unthinkable position in the championship
but as some of the older ones have said we have had many managers worse than these two abomonations (just in my life time never mind the shit that happened before with Mackem-enemy etc)


All aboard the PDC revolution!!!! Ohhhh Di Canioooooo
 
Defo MON I still don't know how we managed to survive the train wreck he left behind.....Paolo's still pulling bodies out!
 
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