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..and how did the tactics change? What exactly did PDC expect to happen by changing one player for another and keeping the tactics the same? Why huff and puff for 90 minutes with the same tactics when its clear after 70 that it isnt working?
Ji had the best chance of the game & really should have put it away so you could argue that something did work with the substitution.
 
The game was more entertaining than the drivel served up by MON however. When you have a big gob, speak in the 3rd person and promise that we don't have to worry because there has been a revolution then you should get stick for losing to a poor Fulham team at home.
 
Ji had the best chance of the game & really should have put it away so you could argue that something did work with the substitution.
He didnt score and we lost. the tactics didnt change.
 
Been reading the forum tonight and am a little surprised by the overwhelmingly positive reaction. Don't get me wrong; our overall performance was okay, we looked a bit smarter and more attractive than last season under MoN, and we were the better side.

But we created three proper chances, the rest were pot shots. We look toothless and this is a against a piss poor Fulham side who would have been elated with a point. Worth remembering they let us control the match, so any raving about us for been so good needs tempering by this.

Certainly not disaster, but more to worry about than be excited about, for me (especially with our run of games up to Christmas). No doubt I'll be slated for this, but it's the way I see it :-/

Spot on this post, especially the highlighted bits which virtually everyone seems to ignore. It certainly wasn't a disaster but the apologists as usual go overboard the other way.

The big worry for me was the response to going behind. It was laboured almost tortured at times. Good sides aren't knocked off their stride by a goal out of the blue against the run of play, they keep going and actaully step it up another gear. We never did that. We looked increasingly disjointed.

Sess was appalling but it was Wickham that should have replaced him.
 
Guys, be honest... it's the result that worries not the performance.. Performance was fine.. we managed to play pretty well without having much quality in the middle atm.. if we found a goal like Fulham did we would have won comfortably and everybody would be enthusiastic. I saw an identity on the pitch, some ideas, players willing to play football. Our lack of quality showed in some situations, but we will improve, and we will buy more players soon.
Spot on.
 
Spot on this post, especially the highlighted bits which virtually everyone seems to ignore. It certainly wasn't a disaster but the apologists as usual go overboard the other way.

The big worry for me was the response to going behind. It was laboured almost tortured at times. Good sides aren't knocked off their stride by a goal out of the blue against the run of play, they keep going and actaully step it up another gear. We never did that. We looked increasingly disjointed.

Sess was appalling but it was Wickham that should have replaced him.

It was an improvement, quite a big one, over last season, when we stayed up, and we have two full transfer windows to go as well. The only reason to be worried about yesterday, in context, is if you didn't manage your expectations sensibly over the summer.

The players notably cared more, went at it for far longer and generally played better. Teams that play well every other week or so always do alright in the fullness of time in the PL. The ones that struggle are the ones who don't make chances and who can't keep the ball and rely on luck, like us last season. There was plenty on show yesterday to suggest we know how to dictate a game. Given how dire we've been the past few seasons while still staying up I think it's fair to predict that we will stop up again playing like that, unless the quality of the league improves markedly.
 
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The fixtures don't help, as soon as the home run ends we play all the big boys away. I don't think we'll build up any kind of decent winning runs this year but should have enough. Getting points from the next two is quite important.
Damn, I forgot that we have to play them all twice. All the other teams get away with just the once it seems.
 
How many games? People keep saying how comfortable we looked, how fulham didn't threaten, but lets not forget jol didn't get to play any of his hand due to enforced substitutions. Ruiz, rodellega and bent never got off the bench. As it turns out they werent even needed. The ref could have blown for time on 75 minutes yesterday as everybody knew the game was up
Damn, I forgot that we have to play them all twice. All the other teams get away with just the once it seems.
makes it harder to get runs together though
 
Been reading the forum tonight and am a little surprised by the overwhelmingly positive reaction. Don't get me wrong; our overall performance was okay, we looked a bit smarter and more attractive than last season under MoN, and we were the better side.

But we created three proper chances, the rest were pot shots. We look toothless and this is a against a piss poor Fulham side who would have been elated with a point. Worth remembering they let us control the match, so any raving about us for been so good needs tempering by this.

Certainly not disaster, but more to worry about than be excited about, for me (especially with our run of games up to Christmas). No doubt I'll be slated for this, but it's the way I see it :-/

I'm with you. We can wet the bed together.
 
I'd take a fair guess and say that those shitting their pants either don't go to the games or were some of those extras there today who dont usually turn up.

I thought the improvement we showed in contrast to last season was glaring.
all that was lacking was a goal. If wed have scored in the first half I think wed have gone on and won the game at a canter even though we played with 9 men for the majority of the match.

Sess, supposedly our talisman, was woeful and just didn't look interested at all. Looked like his head and heart were already in Qatar....and Seb f***ing Larsson. How does this prick avoid criticism time after time. He's terrible. He was a passenger and virtual spectator. He hasn't got the ability, physical attributes, or bottle to play cm. He just likes to stand and look pretty and let his mouth go and point. Cabral had to do the graft of two men in the middle.Larsson is a Waste of space he is.

Anyway, I think there is a lot to be positive about. Altidore was excellent. Led the line really well and some of his touches and interplay were top class.
Giaccherini showed that he will be a very good player for us. Was beating his man at will in the first half. We seemed to stop going to the left once a goal down though. Him and colback look like they could forge a good partnership.
Cabral was class. Breaks up play well, lays it off, strong, few bits of skill and keen to shoot...on another day one of his shots might have flew in.

The doom and gloom pants shutters won't take anything from the game and will continue to spout their bullshit but we could very easily have hammered Fulham yesterday and there's not many qualms from me about the way we played. Especially first half.

Spot on! We played decent football with 9 players as Sess and Seb were missing. I thought the news players were a vast improvement on last seasons dross. Wickham failed to make any impact. I,m glad we are bringing in good Players from abroad rather than paying over the odds for mediocre British players.
 
Was it bollox a worrying performance, we played well they defended well and scored with their only shot. Shit happens, we have done it loads of times to other teams. We looked a lot better than we did last season that was obvious.
 
That's bollocks, I want us to win every game just like everyone else. For the record my feelings are that dicanio could be a genius, the next mourinho, and even if he fails here that still might happen, but I do genuinely believe he lacks the experience for this job at this moment in time. That's my opinion and I hope I'm wrong.


I don't believe that - I know it - He's only had 9 Premier games - therefore it is an objective, empirical fact that he does not have enough experience. However, like you, I do believe he may become a genial manager, but unlike you i'm quite confident that his learning curve will be very pronounced. I'm more worried about our ability to find & fund the missing parts - but fingers crossed.[DOUBLEPOST=1376858579][/DOUBLEPOST]
Spot on this post, especially the highlighted bits which virtually everyone seems to ignore. It certainly wasn't a disaster but the apologists as usual go overboard the other way.

The big worry for me was the response to going behind. It was laboured almost tortured at times. Good sides aren't knocked off their stride by a goal out of the blue against the run of play, they keep going and actaully step it up another gear. We never did that. We looked increasingly disjointed.

Sess was appalling but it was Wickham that should have replaced him.

And obviously we are not a good side yet. The goal really knocked the stuffing out of us and the lack of alternatives on the bench was painfully obvious. By min 70 Giac, our most incisive player, was knackered and the lack of a natural leader was also apparent. However, we will have days when the pot shots go in (Newcastle/Everton) and we will look a completely different team. Matches tend to follow certain patterns and yesterdays was the worst kind - you play quite well but you just know that it's not going to happen and the other team get the lucky break and you're left with egg on your face.

We need to see a few more games and see what other patterns emerge before anyone can really say how things are going to pan out. The best word to describe yesterday is frustrating.
 
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I don't believe that - I know it - He's only had 9 Premier games - therefore it is an objective, empirical fact that he does not have enough experience. However, like you, I do believe he may become a genial manager, but unlike you i'm quite confident that his learning curve will be very pronounced. I'm more worried about our ability to find & fund the missing parts - but fingers crossed.[DOUBLEPOST=1376858579][/DOUBLEPOST]

And obviously we are not a good side yet. The goal really knocked the stuffing out of us and the lack of alternatives on the bench was painfully obvious. By min 70 Giac, our most incisive player, was knackered and the lack of a natural leader was also apparent. However, we will have days when the pot shots go in (Newcastle/Everton) and we will look a completely different team. Matches tend to follow certain patterns and yesterdays was the worst kind - you play quite well but you just know that it's not going to happen and the other team get the lucky break and you're left with egg on your face.

We need to see a few more games and see what other patterns emerge before anyone can really say how things are going to pan out. The best word to describe yesterday is frustrating.

That's another thing that's nagging at me; although we're playing better than under MoN, the only games we've won are when screamers have went in (actually very similar to the start of the MoN era), which potentially masks the fact that we don't create many (if any) clear cut chances.
 
Been reading the forum tonight and am a little surprised by the overwhelmingly positive reaction. Don't get me wrong; our overall performance was okay, we looked a bit smarter and more attractive than last season under MoN, and we were the better side.

But we created three proper chances, the rest were pot shots. We look toothless and this is a against a piss poor Fulham side who would have been elated with a point. Worth remembering they let us control the match, so any raving about us for been so good needs tempering by this.

Certainly not disaster, but more to worry about than be excited about, for me (especially with our run of games up to Christmas). No doubt I'll be slated for this, but it's the way I see it :-/

worrying result - yes

the bit in bold is bollox from start to finish but if that's the way you see it then that's the way you see it and nowt any one can say will change your mind.[DOUBLEPOST=1376859822][/DOUBLEPOST]
That's another thing that's nagging at me; although we're playing better than under MoN, the only games we've won are when screamers have went in (actually very similar to the start of the MoN era), which potentially masks the fact that we don't create many (if any) clear cut chances.

most teams outside the top 5 don't create many clear cut chances
 
worrying result - yes

the bit in bold is bollox from start to finish but if that's the way you see it then that's the way you see it and nowt any one can say will change your mind.[DOUBLEPOST=1376859822][/DOUBLEPOST]

most teams outside the top 5 don't create many clear cut chances

Mate, we created three chances and there keeper didn't have a save of note to make. At home. Against Fulham. Who came for 0-0. Dress it up how you like, but we certainly weren't the attacking visionaries we're being painted as on here. Again, I stress I don't think it's worth panicking or anything yet, there were positives - however, unreal the amount of people on here who are seemingly elated with a 1-0 defeat at home against Fulham.
 
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