Wine

Definitely.

"How much is too much" depends on how poor you are.

At my most flush I've regularly spent £30-£40 per bottle and try loads of different types, but nowadays I have to settle for supermarket prices, so I've found a couple of nice ones in the £7-£10 range that I buy either one or the other of pretty much all the time... a Bordeaux in the Co-Op called Vieux Manoir and a Cotes De Rhone in ASDA called Vinsobres.

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I will 1oo% try these 2 mate and I'll let you know what I think.

Where were you buying your 30-40 pound bottles by the way? Just somewhere like Magestic?
 


I shall investigate.

ASDA are fuckers with the pricing of that Vinsobres.

When I first discovered it it was £6 a bottle, so I was buying loads of them, then suddenly it was £12! I stopped buying it at that point as it's not that good but for £6 it was awesome. After a while the price dropped back down to £7 so I started buying it again. Then it was £10 so I stopped again. This week it was back down to £7 so I've had a few of them.

Oh, and don't bother with the Vinsobres Cabernet Sauvignon, it's crap. It's just their Cotes De Rhone that's worth having.
 
I will 1oo% try these 2 mate and I'll let you know what I think.

This. Should be a feature where a poster recommends a bottle and the rest sample and review :cool:

ASDA are fuckers with the pricing of that Vinsobres.

When I first discovered it it was £6 a bottle, so I was buying loads of them, then suddenly it was £12! I stopped buying it at that point as it's not that good but for £6 it was awesome. After a while the price dropped back down to £7 so I started buying it again. Then it was £10 so I stopped again. This week it was back down to £7 so I've had a few of them.

Oh, and don't bother with the Vinsobres Cabernet Sauvignon, it's crap. It's just their Cotes De Rhone that's worth having.

Noted. Don't buy any over the next two days please so its cheaper for me on Sunday, ta.
 
I will 1oo% try these 2 mate and I'll let you know what I think.

Where were you buying your 30-40 pound bottles by the way? Just somewhere like Magestic?

I was living in Barnes, SW London right next door to the recording studio I worked in at the time. The street had two specialist wine shops with bottles going up to over £100, so I was spoiled for choice. The most I ever spent was about £65-£75. Weird one - it was about 30 years old, was practically brown, and had to be drank pretty much instantly or it would go off due to its age. Very smooth taste almost like Ribena, not massively complicated, definitely wasn't worth the money although it was an interesting experience trying a wine that old.

Some of the best wines I've tasted have actually been in the £15-£25 range. There are a couple of specialist shops not far from me that have really great selections of obscure wines.

Absolutely agree with that.

I really want to go to Mendoza region in Argentina, beautiful scenery, cheap wine and lots of steaks.

I went through a big phase of drinking South American wines almost exclusively up until about 3 or 4 years ago. After that I found the Carmenere's had turned too sickly sweet and every Malbec I tried since around the same time smells like sewage. My two favourite wine types of the previous 4 or 5 years were suddenly off the menu and so I got back into Bordeaux.

Too late to edit: ^ Carmeneres* where'd that damn apostrophe come from?

Anywhere between £5 and £10 for a bottle of red wine for me. I tend to bulk buy when there is an offer like the current 25% off if you buy 6 bottles or more at Tesco. Aldi regularly have 'wine festival' type events with some bottles of stuff they don't ordinarily stock and I've had some cracking wine for £7/8 per bottle.

Out of all the Supermarkets I've tried, Co-Op win for me at wine. Their tasters/buyers must be proper wine fans. Some of the wines they get are absolutely amazing.

Their discount is 15% off if you buy 4 bottles.

Capital S on supermarkets, Phil? Really? Where's yo' head at?
 
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Old world reds for me, from France, Italy and Spain, more subtle and food friendly, usually not quite as strong either. Maybe have some new world reds on their own, more fruit forward with more flavour. There seems to be plenty of research out there (if you look hard enough) that wine with food and in moderation is much better for you than going without and then binge drinking.

Bearing in mind the duty, wines that are a little dearer are often a lot better, but there’s still plenty of value out there around the £6-£7.50 mark in my opinion. 25% off 6 bottles at Sainsburys at the moment.
 
Lived in Spain for years and no expert but love Spanish wine, you cant buy anything else here funnily enough. They reckon it is the best price/quality country for wines in the world, loads of good stuff youd not see in Uk and on average more than half the price. For 5 Euro you can get a decent bottle but for 8-12 euro you can get a fantastic wine, and onwards and upwards.I rarely get past 15euro. But them with cash to splash pay 100 euro for some of the best wine in the world - Vega Sicilia being one of them

Anyway just to add my tuppence worth - for robust Spanish reds with food, forget Rioja and try any of the Ribera de Duero wines - told a few people that over the years and theyve thanked me later on
 
I obtained a diploma in Beers, Wines & Spirits when I worked for a firm called Bottoms Up years ago (part of Peter Dominic off licence chain. later taken over by Threshers)

The thing to quality (apart from one's own taste, obviously) is the grape and vintage ... not the cost and certainly not the % strength by volume (I really despair when I see pseudo-experts, normally chavs, rating wine using this as a measure.

Certainly with whites, and this is because of the screw-top issue, they don't age very well at all. Reds age better but not as good as they used to.

Last years popular white was Pinot Grigio, but it's been surpassed this year by Sauvignon Blanc. It's grown in all parts of the world, but - for me - the current 2017 vintage from NZ is truly awesome. Australia comes a close second, followed by Chile.

Asda do a couple but the best by far is Kiwi something (it even has a picture of a Kiwi on the label) and it's betwixt £6 & £7.50

Yes, there are dearer wines but this idea that "you get what you pay for" is shite. It's all down to taste, so sample loads and end up buying what you like, don't believe the hype.
 
Got married in a Tuscan Agriturismo vineard for less than my local golf club charged for the same do. One euro a glass of Chianti, by midnight the owner had lost count and was so pissed he let the tabs go. Came back after ten minutes with a couple of bottles of his reserve , free, and was up until the sun rose with us. Bloody brilliant. Been a fan of the red stuff ever since.
 
Maclaren Vale Shiraz is nectar. In fact any Southern Australian red is nectar.

Wouldn’t give the dog a bottle of anything with the word Chateau written on it
 

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