Will Still - Lens Manager

[Blyth]

We're not allowed to question the club or point out it's failings. We should know our place. Or so I've been told for best part of 2 and a half years.

I mean you’ve accused the club of fiddling the books so I think we’ll take your opinion with a pinch of salt eh

But a few have been consistent over a period of time in pointing out the mismanagement (not me) and have been derided by people. The club is drifting with no leadership and we will be in a relegation battle next season if there are not big changes.

We deserve way better.

Nobody is saying we don’t deserve better.

I’m not sure what we’re talking about here.

My point is we’ve had huge positives since KLD has come in. But we’ve also seen equally bad negatives. Especially this season.

It’s called balance. There seems to be an element that come rain or shine refuse to accept that there’s been any good done.

But that doesn’t mean the club is falling apart, the vitriol towards the club just doesn’t make sense.

 

[Vauxie]

Tomorrow, all WILL be revealed. STILL it may happen today.

Oh aye June 1st init

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

I mean you’ve accused the club of fiddling the books so I think we’ll take your opinion with a pinch of salt eh

Nobody is saying we don’t deserve better.

I’m not sure what we’re talking about here.

My point is we’ve had huge positives since KLD has come in. But we’ve also seen equally bad negatives. Especially this season.

It’s called balance. There seems to be an element that come rain or shine refuse to accept that there’s been any good done.

But that doesn’t mean the club is falling apart, the vitriol towards the club just doesn’t make sense.

There has been good done nobody has said otherwise. However that good is going to be lost if we let Speakmsns arrogance and allegiance to his mate get in the way of recruiting a quality HC and a balanced squad with at least a decent striker or two and DCM.

 

[Rokeroar]

Just popped in for a moment to see, okay with you ? You must be one of those who live on here 24/7 ?

No, I have a life thanks

 

[big les]

I mean you’ve accused the club of fiddling the books so I think we’ll take your opinion with a pinch of salt eh

Nobody is saying we don’t deserve better.

I’m not sure what we’re talking about here.

My point is we’ve had huge positives since KLD has come in. But we’ve also seen equally bad negatives. Especially this season.

It’s called balance. There seems to be an element that come rain or shine refuse to accept that there’s been any good done.

But that doesn’t mean the club is falling apart, the vitriol towards the club just doesn’t make sense.

Really.

The lack of customer service, do I need to list, and its long all the errors made by the club, simple errors that any sort of caring owners with half a shell of business savy could get right.

The Nufc cup tie debacle.

We lost Mowbray as we wont invest in experience.
The lack of any sort of striker.

This fella in charge comes from a billionaire back ground, we are a toy to him, he has the club at its knees, he is a mere boy.
How its all come to this is shameful.

The Managers situation/ Speakman is a another sad sight of football, a man who had a little success in a role at Birmingham, its all gone to his head.
He has too much power.

The positive I see was getting out of league one, not to difficult for a club our size, it took a minimal amount of investment, and even that was through the play offs...

The negatives out weigh the positives in my eyes, go on with your further positives...

 

[Deleted member 41188]

There has been good done nobody has said otherwise. However that good is going to be lost if we let Speakmsns arrogance and allegiance to his mate get in the way of recruiting a quality HC and a balanced squad with at least a decent striker or two and DCM.

I think it all needs to be put in context too.

We started from a pretty low place given how ran down and underfunded the club had been under Methven and Donald. Most staff were furloughed, investment was pretty much non existent and costs had been cut as far as they could be (and more).

Point being, that was beyond bad. So any new owner coming in would likely be improving the situation just by doing the basics right. They’ve had some shrewd recruitment. Clarke, Ballard and Jobe in particular have done well, and whilst not being hidden gems, have still been good pieces of investment.

On the managerial side I think they took a punt on both Neil and Mowbray and both worked wonders. I think both succeeded in spite of the model rather than because of it.

The shortcomings of the transfer activity are there for all to see. Rather than continuing buying players who have been schooled in British academies or players who have had previous moves for decent money that haven’t worked out, we’ve gone on an ideologically driven pursuit of foreign talent who are cheap and mostly below the age of 21. It’s not just one or two duds, it’s been consistently bad. It also has failed to address two gaping holes in the team in a cdm and a cf. Those holes have existed for at least 18 months.

The managerial situation is also beyond bad. Beale was a disaster. The plodding on with Dodds even worse.

If they didn’t come out with the soundbites of ‘obsession with progression’, ‘high performance culture’ and that they are always contingency planning for both coaches and players, then people may forgive them. But when all the evidence runs contrary to what they’re saying they’re doing it’s no wonder people get pissed off.

We’ve gone from being a club a couple of games away from the Premier League and in need of a little bit of investment to go again, to a rudderless club in free fall. The ‘good work’ in the bank that got us promoted to league one has long gone. It’s not far off incompetence.

 

[Chop Sauce]

I mean you’ve accused the club of fiddling the books so I think we’ll take your opinion with a pinch of salt eh

Nobody is saying we don’t deserve better.

I’m not sure what we’re talking about here.

My point is we’ve had huge positives since KLD has come in. But we’ve also seen equally bad negatives. Especially this season.

It’s called balance. There seems to be an element that come rain or shine refuse to accept that there’s been any good done.

But that doesn’t mean the club is falling apart, the vitriol towards the club just doesn’t make sense.

KLD has been a disgrace.

 

[gramw]

I’d love Oscar to post a pic of Doddsy on twitter today with a caption of “morning gaffer” or something.

The fume would be wonderful

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

I think it all needs to be put in context too.

We started from a pretty low place given how ran down and underfunded the club had been under Methven and Donald. Most staff were furloughed, investment was pretty much non existent and costs had been cut as far as they could be (and more).

Point being, that was beyond bad. So any new owner coming in would likely be improving the situation just by doing the basics right. They’ve had some shrewd recruitment. Clarke, Ballard and Jobe in particular have done well, and whilst not being hidden gems, have still been good pieces of investment.

On the managerial side I think they took a punt on both Neil and Mowbray and both worked wonders. I think both succeeded in spite of the model rather than because of it.

The shortcomings of the transfer activity are there for all to see. Rather than continuing buying players who have been schooled in British academies or players who have had previous moves for decent money that haven’t worked out, we’ve gone on an ideologically driven pursuit of foreign talent who are cheap and mostly below the age of 21. It’s not just one or two duds, it’s been consistently bad. It also has failed to address two gaping holes in the team in a cdm and a cf. Those holes have existed for at least 18 months.

The managerial situation is also beyond bad. Beale was a disaster. The plodding on with Dodds even worse.

If they didn’t come out with the soundbites of ‘obsession with progression’, ‘high performance culture’ and that they are always contingency planning for both coaches and players, then people may forgive them. But when all the evidence runs contrary to what they’re saying they’re doing it’s no wonder people get pissed off.

We’ve gone from being a club a couple of games away from the Premier League and in need of a little bit of investment to go again, to a rudderless club in free fall. The ‘good work’ in the bank that got us promoted to league one has long gone. It’s not far off incompetence.

Excellent post.

 

[FlashGordon]

Today is the day.

 

[big winnie]

KLD has been a disgrace.

Don’t be silly

 

[Blyth]

There has been good done nobody has said otherwise. However that good is going to be lost if we let Speakmsns arrogance and allegiance to his mate get in the way of recruiting a quality HC and a balanced squad with at least a decent striker or two and DCM.

Do you know him personally like?

We lost Mowbray as we wont invest in experience.
The lack of any sort of striker.

How its all come to this is shameful.

The Managers situation/ Speakman is a another sad sight of football, a man who had a little success in a role at Birmingham, its all gone to his head.
He has too much power.

The positive I see was getting out of league one, not to difficult for a club our size, it took a minimal amount of investment, and even that was through the play offs...

The negatives out weigh the positives in my eyes, go on with your further positives...

Mowbray was sacked, results and performances turned. We invested a huge amount into his signing, Dack.

We didn’t lose him. We sacked him. Given what went on after that now looks like a stupid decision.

What’s gone to his head? People going on this board like they’ve been sitting next to him and know him personally. It’s just made up bollocks.

Powers gone to his head? Based on what?

Little success at Birmingham? You state that as a fact. Is it? Again just zany sound bite without any substance.

Not difficult to get out of league one? We had the biggest budget and spent the most by far yet we couldn’t get out. Again you make it sound like it was a given. Ignoring the fact we couldn’t get out of it until someone put in a proper plan to do it.

Just another poster who dismisses anything positive as “that’s easy, anyone could have done that”

KLD has been a disgrace.

Has he fuck man. What a load of shite.

 

[woodlebert]

Message from a former player suggests it’s still, still. But I’ve got my doubts.

Dame N’Doye?

 

[Vauxie]

Any news on Still?
Getting back on topic like.
Has he been sighted?

 

[woodlebert]

Today is the day.

Today is Friday

 

[Deleted member 41188]

Any news on Still?
Getting back on topic like.
Has he been sighted?

Your patter is absolutely lifting like

 

[Vauxie]

Your patter is absolutely lifting like

Just asking a question like,this is the Will Still thread isn't ?
Is that a problem for you?

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

Do you know him personally like?


Mowbray was sacked, results and performances turned. We invested a huge amount into his signing, Dack.

We didn’t lose him. We sacked him. Given what went on after that now looks like a stupid decision.

What’s gone to his head? People going on this board like they’ve been sitting next to him and know him personally. It’s just made up bollocks.

Powers gone to his head? Based on what?

Little success at Birmingham? You state that as a fact. Is it? Again just zany sound bite without any substance.

Not difficult to get out of league one? We had the biggest budget and spent the most by far yet we couldn’t get out. Again you make it sound like it was a given. Ignoring the fact we couldn’t get out of it until someone put in a proper plan to do it.

Just another poster who dismisses anything positive as “that’s easy, anyone could have done that”

Has he fuck man. What a load of shite.

No. Do you?

His arrogance on the striker front quoting data when any one who has watched a bit of football and people like Neil and Mowbray can see the glaring weaknesses in our team. He has lost the goodwill he created and his allegiance to Dodds, who has been a disastrous short term appointment, and looks like it’s costing us Will Still demonstrates he won’t listen. Nothing wrong with arrogance if you can back it up but this fella can’t.

We all love this football club but not sure what’s to be gained by pretending all is rosy when there are fundamental issues that need addressing at the football club.

 

[Karlsson]

I think it all needs to be put in context too.

We started from a pretty low place given how ran down and underfunded the club had been under Methven and Donald. Most staff were furloughed, investment was pretty much non existent and costs had been cut as far as they could be (and more).

Point being, that was beyond bad. So any new owner coming in would likely be improving the situation just by doing the basics right. They’ve had some shrewd recruitment. Clarke, Ballard and Jobe in particular have done well, and whilst not being hidden gems, have still been good pieces of investment.

On the managerial side I think they took a punt on both Neil and Mowbray and both worked wonders. I think both succeeded in spite of the model rather than because of it.

The shortcomings of the transfer activity are there for all to see. Rather than continuing buying players who have been schooled in British academies or players who have had previous moves for decent money that haven’t worked out, we’ve gone on an ideologically driven pursuit of foreign talent who are cheap and mostly below the age of 21. It’s not just one or two duds, it’s been consistently bad. It also has failed to address two gaping holes in the team in a cdm and a cf. Those holes have existed for at least 18 months.

The managerial situation is also beyond bad. Beale was a disaster. The plodding on with Dodds even worse.

If they didn’t come out with the soundbites of ‘obsession with progression’, ‘high performance culture’ and that they are always contingency planning for both coaches and players, then people may forgive them. But when all the evidence runs contrary to what they’re saying they’re doing it’s no wonder people get pissed off.

We’ve gone from being a club a couple of games away from the Premier League and in need of a little bit of investment to go again, to a rudderless club in free fall. The ‘good work’ in the bank that got us promoted to league one has long gone. It’s not far off incompetence.

Great post! Nail on head!

 

[Binxy]

I think it all needs to be put in context too.

We started from a pretty low place given how ran down and underfunded the club had been under Methven and Donald. Most staff were furloughed, investment was pretty much non existent and costs had been cut as far as they could be (and more).

Point being, that was beyond bad. So any new owner coming in would likely be improving the situation just by doing the basics right. They’ve had some shrewd recruitment. Clarke, Ballard and Jobe in particular have done well, and whilst not being hidden gems, have still been good pieces of investment.

On the managerial side I think they took a punt on both Neil and Mowbray and both worked wonders. I think both succeeded in spite of the model rather than because of it.

The shortcomings of the transfer activity are there for all to see. Rather than continuing buying players who have been schooled in British academies or players who have had previous moves for decent money that haven’t worked out, we’ve gone on an ideologically driven pursuit of foreign talent who are cheap and mostly below the age of 21. It’s not just one or two duds, it’s been consistently bad. It also has failed to address two gaping holes in the team in a cdm and a cf. Those holes have existed for at least 18 months.

The managerial situation is also beyond bad. Beale was a disaster. The plodding on with Dodds even worse.

If they didn’t come out with the soundbites of ‘obsession with progression’, ‘high performance culture’ and that they are always contingency planning for both coaches and players, then people may forgive them. But when all the evidence runs contrary to what they’re saying they’re doing it’s no wonder people get pissed off.

We’ve gone from being a club a couple of games away from the Premier League and in need of a little bit of investment to go again, to a rudderless club in free fall. The ‘good work’ in the bank that got us promoted to league one has long gone. It’s not far off incompetence.

You'll get pelters for that but you're spot on.