Will Leicester title win be biggest shock in football history?


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I know Brian Clough achieved massive things at Nottingham Forest (Winning 2 European cups is simply awesome) but, (This may be a tad controversial) was it now 'easier' to do back then rather than now and this era of Football where the £££ in the game means that it's virtually impossible for the 'lesser' teams to compete? I think this Leicester story trumps the Nottingham Forest legacy that Mr Clough created.
 
I'm not suggesting it has made them better passers of the ball or my accurate in front of goal. Not at all. What I have seen though is on many occasions an average performance usually matched by the opponent until they run out of steam. Leicester players just don't. Not even a little bit, even at this stage of the season. Last night Spurs played some good football and went to pot when they had little left in the tank. Leicester have out ran and out paced anyone put in front of them. They didn't do that for 3 quarters of last season.
Absolute garbage, what are you basing this on exactly? Last time I checked we weren't even in the top 7 for distance run, so we aren't outrunning people at all. We've always had a great fitness level. What are you basing it on that we've suddenly changed? I'd like to see your evidence.

Last time this was brought up I posed the stats that showed Sunderland had scored as many last goals as Leicester had... are you on drugs as you finish well also?
 
Absolute garbage, what are you basing this on exactly? Last time I checked we weren't even in the top 7 for distance run, so we aren't outrunning people at all. We've always had a great fitness level. What are you basing it on that we've suddenly changed? I'd like to see your evidence.

Last time this was brought up I posed the stats that showed Sunderland had scored as many last goals as Leicester had... are you on drugs as you finish well also?
Are Sunderlands average and limited team winning a title like? Fuck off back to a Leicester forum and enjoy the title win ffs. Taking about your own team winning the league on the forum of a totally irrelevant club to your own :lol:
 
Absolute garbage, what are you basing this on exactly? Last time I checked we weren't even in the top 7 for distance run, so we aren't outrunning people at all. We've always had a great fitness level. What are you basing it on that we've suddenly changed? I'd like to see your evidence.

Last time this was brought up I posed the stats that showed Sunderland had scored as many last goals as Leicester had... are you on drugs as you finish well also?


Exactly this....When you look at Leicester game stats they often have a much lower percentage of possession than the opposition and many of their goals are scored on the break. Perhaps they defend deep and are hugely organised while not spending half the game making energy sapping darting runs everywhere means they conserve more energy than the opposition use trying to break them down. With the pace of Vardy they then have an outlet for the longer ball. They are imho proof that you can indeed create a team that is greater than the sum of the individual parts.

Are Sunderlands average and limited team winning a title like? Fuck off back to a Leicester forum and enjoy the title win ffs. Taking about your own team winning the league on the forum of a totally irrelevant club to your own :lol:

So if people were trying to claim Sunderland were doping you wouldnt defend them? Haway man.
 
What about in Spain and France? The top Russians can spend millions on players too. It's the same in most leagues. That's why I think Leicester, Montpellier and Rostov winning their leagues are as impressive as each others.

France is a poor league, both in quality and financially. At the time Montpellier won the league, it was even less so. Marseille and Lyon no longer had the financial might to dominate, Monaco were in Ligue 2 and PSG had only just been bought over. Lille had managed to win it the year before (only their 3rd title). To compare that situation to one in which 50% of the 10 richest clubs on the planet are in your league is totally wrong in my opinion.

In Spain, if a small club were to win La Liga in the present climate, then yea it would be a comparable achievement. But it hasn't happened.

Russian clubs spend millions on the odd player. There is no "cartel" of established clubs who year in, year out spend tens or hundreds of millions of pounds on players. The quality is also shit. It's much easier to cause an upset at a lower level of competition than it is at the very highest. Small teams win lesser leagues all the time. In any sport, the higher up the pyramid you go, the greater the odds are weighing in favour of the better players and teams.
 
Didn't think Ipswich won it?

Forest doing it and back to back European Cups is impressive

As impressive as it was, Forest were able to make some signings that were quite big for the time and the economic and other challenges of punching above your weight were out of all proportion to what they are now. Liverpool would have had more money, more players and a stronger overall setup, but now the top clubs have got a revenue which is ten times that of the the lower end Prem teams and squads so big they have 25 players out on loan
 
The English clubs are all established in the richest clubs in the world, and have been for a number of years. Most of them playing regularly in the Champions league. The weight of financial advantage that they have over a team like Leicester is far greater than you will find in other leagues.
But Leicester, and every other Prem club, have a financial advantage over practically every other club in the world bar ten or so. When the talent pool is global (which its is), and you can get either a bit clever or a bit lucky about how you scout it, Bobs your uncle.
 
But Leicester, and every other Prem club, have a financial advantage over practically every other club in the world bar ten or so. When the talent pool is global (which its is), and you can get either a bit clever or a bit lucky about how you scout it, Bobs your uncle.

This is quite an ask when you are looking to overtake 5 or 6 clubs who can effectively buy pretty much any player on the planet who doesn't play for Barca, Madrid or Bayern. I would prefer Spurs to win, but if Leicester manage it, it's nothing short of a sporting miracle. The gap between the biggest clubs and the rest, has never been as big as it is right now. The Champions League and global marketing has seen to that.

Chelsea have an entire squad of players out on loan right now, and if you brought all those players together, they'd be giving a good portion of teams in the premier league a good game. That's what we are dealing with.
 
Cannot think of anything that trumps it, it is an obscene achievement given the way money talks in this division and the shoe string that side was put together on. When I see them lift that trophy I have to say a little of my faith in the magic of great game will be restored. :cool:
amazing what they have done, well done although go to finish the job still!
 
I still think the glory goes to Ranieri. The players did their bit of course but they are pawns on a tactics board. During the 90 minutes they play to a system. A system he set up, maintained and tweaked when needed. The players were just the delivery system.

That's why a 28yr old average striker became a sensation, because of the manager.
 
Nice story about the Cobbolds (posh former owners of ITFC) I heard - they didn't believe sacking the manager was the act of a gentleman, so they just left Alf and Bobby alone and the rest is history. Might be bollox, I like to believe it.
I can believe that. Certainly sounds like something they would do. They ran the club at time of great success. Robson should probably have won the title as well.
 
Some right tin foil hat characters on here.

I'm sure they have players doping, I'm sure most teams in the top flight have some. But I struggle to be convinced that there's any reason to think that their team engages in doping over and above anyone else. It's not like there isn't prior evidence of how much mentality and confidence plays in football.
 
Biggest achievement since Lance Armstrong won the TDF after battling cancer imo.

Some right tin foil hat characters on here.

I'm sure they have players doping, I'm sure most teams in the top flight have some. But I struggle to be convinced that there's any reason to think that their team engages in doping over and above anyone else. It's not like there isn't prior evidence of how much mentality and confidence plays in football.

This is a very interesting article on doping. Gave me pause for thought about Leicester's turnaround, especially given that it's built on (in part) freakish consistency and huge leaps forward physically in key players (esp Vardy).

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...s-you-will-ever-see-in-this-interview.412846/
 
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I once,,and it was only once saw Jeff Whitley score.
So no, it wont
 
France is a poor league, both in quality and financially. At the time Montpellier won the league, it was even less so. Marseille and Lyon no longer had the financial might to dominate, Monaco were in Ligue 2 and PSG had only just been bought over. Lille had managed to win it the year before (only their 3rd title). To compare that situation to one in which 50% of the 10 richest clubs on the planet are in your league is totally wrong in my opinion.

In Spain, if a small club were to win La Liga in the present climate, then yea it would be a comparable achievement. But it hasn't happened.

Russian clubs spend millions on the odd player. There is no "cartel" of established clubs who year in, year out spend tens or hundreds of millions of pounds on players. The quality is also shit. It's much easier to cause an upset at a lower level of competition than it is at the very highest. Small teams win lesser leagues all the time. In any sport, the higher up the pyramid you go, the greater the odds are weighing in favour of the better players and teams.
All I'm saying that they are equally great achievements.
 
Would be massive, not sure it would eclipse Forest's European success?

Well done to Leicester, fantastic for the game, and shows what can be done if you get the blend right, they remind me of us under Reidy (with more depth of talent).
 
Biggest achievement since Lance Armstrong won the TDF after battling cancer imo.



This is a very interesting article on doping. Gave me pause for thought about Leicester's turnaround, especially given that it's built on (in part) freakish consistency and huge leaps forward physically in key players (esp Vardy).

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/probably-the-best-ped-insights-you-will-ever-see-in-this-interview.412846/
People are burying their heads in the sand with doping in football. We won't accept that it happens. PEDs won't make you a great player. But it'll make you fitter, faster and stronger. In the modern game fittness and stamina is important. If you can boost your fittness and stamina and maintain 5% higher performance over naturally fit athletes you have a a better chances of winning. Plus if you can recuperate quicker after games you have another advantage.
 
People are burying their heads in the sand with doping in football. We won't accept that it happens. PEDs won't make you a great player. But it'll make you fitter, faster and stronger. In the modern game fittness and stamina is important. If you can boost your fittness and stamina and maintain 5% higher performance over naturally fit athletes you have a a better chances of winning. Plus if you can recuperate quicker after games you have another advantage.
No, people have been burying their heads in the sand for decade's. It's just now we've had a small team win the league people are calling fowl.

It's either very disingenuous to Leicester or people are just pandering to the big club's.

Leicester may well be doping but for people to suggest that they'll have some kind of advantage over other rich clubs with their top doctors seems ridiculous to me.
 
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