Why broken record Sam Allardyce is fooling no one... least of all West Ham fans


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Of course it wasn't but it wasn't his fault we had to let them go and replacing them was or practically impossible. He brought bendtner in as well by the way so he didn't replace them with wickham and Ji as you're conveniently trying to point out.
Interesting how you're now all of a sudden a big advocate of allardyce. It clearly wasn't always so........

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/thread...g-as-safc-manager.648593/page-2#post-11290023

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/sam-allardyce.825389/page-2#post-16138499

I've admitted on here in the last week that MON was my first choice for years and Hughes 2nd. MON was a disaster without John Robertson and Hughes is doing a solid job at Stoke.

We're in the shit yet again and it's time for some stabilty. BSA is the man available to do that job.

Bendtner was a late loan signing probably after Bruce realised he'd fucked up buying 2 inexperienced kids.
 
I've admitted on here in the last week that MON was my first choice for years and Hughes 2nd. MON was a disaster without John Robertson and Hughes is doing a solid job at Stoke.

We're in the shit yet again and it's time for some stabilty. BSA is the man available to do that job.

Bendtner was a late loan signing probably after Bruce realised he'd fucked up buying 2 inexperienced kids.
Understandable as I always fancied oneil as well but that doesn't detract from the fact you have slated big Sam in the past and now all of a sudden you're defending him to the hilt!
Gyan was a very late sale as well if you remember.
 
Says a lot about you as a fan if you call anyone that hopes for some good football and ambition from their club ''DELUSIONAL'

You're deluded to not think that is a normal thing to want

Still the complete antipathy about at least trying to play a good style and a set of fans whose highest dreams are of 12th will be a perfect for for Sam

Enjoy

HOOF



hahahaha what a f***ing tosser, good luck with your new manager and you free stadium,, you cockney wanker
 
Understandable as I always fancied oneil as well but that doesn't detract from the fact you have slated big Sam in the past and now all of a sudden you're defending him to the hilt!
Gyan was a very late sale as well if you remember.

I'm defending Sam because he's the right choice at and right time. His long record proves that. I'm sure he will frustrate at times and make old signings but he'll keep us up. He'll make us hard to beat and give us a platform that will guarantee premier league money for a couple of years. If we then decide to move on I'll remember these dark days and thank him.

I remember fondly DiCanio keeping us up and to a lesser extent Poyet as he really had given up and got lucky with Wickham who he'd peddled out on loan twice that season. He did get us to Wembley though.
 
I mentioned that to them as well, I just got told to "grow up". The set of bellends.

Sheffield United completed the job for them by "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" losing to Wigan at home when anything but would have kept them up

But the league bottled it by allowing West Ham to stay up
 
To reiterate they have never said we will be champions league or top 4

They said highly unlikely but we can dream that's their worlds exactly

You are wasting your time trying to point out the truth on here, it will now be gospel that every Hammer believes they should be in the Champions League in 5 years and that they talk constantly about the West Ham way, despite neither being remotely the case.
 
All clubs have certain amount of deluded fans. The Mags are the worst bar none, but that is not helped by the promises made by the owners, or the fact that they have tasted recent success. West Ham have highly ambitious owners who also know how to play the fans, and it's the press that keep the West Ham way thing going. In all fairness, they are now starting to deliver on their promises. Liverpool fans have been living on past glory, but their moaning is now paying off.
We don't tend to moan much, despite lack of success. There's an often used phrase on here "shy bairns get now't", so maybe we've been too easy.


I would argue that it's us who are silly for being so obsessed with not being called delusional. We continue to doff our cap at the status quo, and we continue to get shat on.

There's a canny bit of hypocrisy flies around this board tbh.

Scourers, Cuckney & Mags seem to be praised if they protest but Sunderland supporters 'hound out managers'.

One set is portrayed as 'ambitious' white the other is impatient ...... I'm not sure either where you get Newcastle's success or how the Liverpool supporters moaning is paying off.

How you can claim West Ham are aiming for the Champions League, especially when a supporter is saying the opposite, is beyond credibility imo.
 
Not really a comparison to be made mind you. Unless we're determined to protect 'The Sunderland Way' of playing and I've missed it over the last quarter of a century.
Wist 'Am haven't played the Wist 'Am way since Ron Greenwood was managing them, iirc, imho, there. Which is a lot longer than 25 years ago.
 
I'm defending Sam because he's the right choice at and right time. His long record proves that. I'm sure he will frustrate at times and make old signings but he'll keep us up. He'll make us hard to beat and give us a platform that will guarantee premier league money for a couple of years. If we then decide to move on I'll remember these dark days and thank him.

I remember fondly DiCanio keeping us up and to a lesser extent Poyet as he really had given up and got lucky with Wickham who he'd peddled out on loan twice that season. He did get us to Wembley though.
At what point would Sam not be the right choice for a club like us? You say he'll keep us up and give us a premier league platform and describe (hypothetically of course) these as dark days. Surely a premier league platform is as good as it gets for us. What are you exactly expecting?
We won two games under di canio mind. Other teams played their part in the fact we stayed up. Poyet done a good job.
You say you remember di canio fondly yet slate Bruce! Surely you're joking?
 
'Needless to say, this is a man who won three out of his last 20 Premier League games at West Ham. This is a man who, after reaching the 'magic' 40-point mark, simply packed his bags and went for an early holiday. Allardyce needs to stop with all this, man up and take responsibility for doing a shoddy job.'


http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/10/1...m-allardyce-is-fooling-no-one-least-of-all-w/
Bolton, Newcastle, Blackburn. What happened to them after he left?
 
At what point would Sam not be the right choice for a club like us? You say he'll keep us up and give us a premier league platform and describe (hypothetically of course) these as dark days. Surely a premier league platform is as good as it gets for us. What are you exactly expecting?
We won two games under di canio mind. Other teams played their part in the fact we stayed up. Poyet done a good job.
You say you remember di canio fondly yet slate Bruce! Surely you're joking?

I think you'll find that always happens. It's called a "league".
 
I agree, I think he will build a good foundation for Sunderland and in the future some fans will probably get disillusioned with him in a few years and want cup runs and a more exciting style of play.

Im a Hull fan actually and having been at Upton Park for the game I fully understand why your fans booed "that win" and it's wrong for fans on here to judge you for it.


You understand why someone would boo a win? f***ing hell, I don't care how f***ing dull the game is or how negative the tactics are, the aim of any football match is to win the fucker. If you've done that, by hook or by crook, you should applaud your team off. If the football is dreary, negative, draining the life out of you and you're not getting results then I can quite understand being annoyed but when you've won? I'll judge him on that if I want, it makes him sound like some sky era, entertainment driven, day out at the football type when most of us are the type who want to see our team win, regardless of whether it's pretty or not. I would never, and will never, boo a winning Sunderland performance, and if I did I'd fully expect someone to take issue with me in the stadium
 
I think you'll find that always happens. It's called a "league".
I'm not trying to say he was lucky as like you say it's a league and over 38 games you end up where you deserve. What I'm getting at is that he didn't oversee some miracle run of results and miraculously saved us.
 
Di Canio got us 2 great and very unexpected wins against the mags away and Everton. Then consolidated that by picking up other points to get us to safety. He blew it the next season but we'll never know how much of that was down to Di Fanti.

Bruce has totally burnt his bridges with me by telling bare faced lies after leaving the club. He made a series of monumental cock ups in the transfer market, couldn't win a game but non of it was his fault, it was all down to his geordie roots. Laughable stuff.

Bruce's status in the game is that of a yo yo manager. IIRC he did it with Birmingham, was doing it with us and did it at Hull despite a relatively lot of money to spend.

Taking over a team, doing well then returning a team to where you started isn't my idea of success. I'm really not sure why you defend his bullshit?
 
Di Canio got us 2 great and very unexpected wins against the mags away and Everton. Then consolidated that by picking up other points to get us to safety. He blew it the next season but we'll never know how much of that was down to Di Fanti.

Bruce has totally burnt his bridges with me by telling bare faced lies after leaving the club. He made a series of monumental cock ups in the transfer market, couldn't win a game but non of it was his fault, it was all down to his geordie roots. Laughable stuff.

Bruce's status in the game is that of a yo yo manager. IIRC he did it with Birmingham, was doing it with us and did it at Hull despite a relatively lot of money to spend.

Taking over a team, doing well then returning a team to where you started isn't my idea of success. I'm really not sure why you defend his bullshit?


If Bruce was ex-Stoke instead of Man Utd he'd be exactly where Paul Jewell is ...... he got out of jail after Sunderland by playing the 'wronged Geordie' card.

I'm amazed Allardyce has been so restrained in his criticism of West Ham. He did exactly what he was asked of him and more.

He took them into the top 6 against the script the owners were reading to the supporters so they openly declared he was a dead manager walking.
 
Like I said earlier, I've had hell on with some on twitter. I pointed out what he did for them but they wouldn't have it. They called him "a c.unt of a man" and saying we are well suited. I now despise West Ham and their fans as much as I do the mags now. I can't wait until it goes tits up for them.

Never argue with an idiot, folk will not be able to tell you apart.
 
If Bruce was ex-Stoke instead of Man Utd he'd be exactly where Paul Jewell is ...... he got out of jail after Sunderland by playing the 'wronged Geordie' card.

I'm amazed Allardyce has been so restrained in his criticism of West Ham. He did exactly what he was asked of him and more.

He took them into the top 6 against the script the owners were reading to the supporters so they openly declared he was a dead manager walking.
So your now a fan of big Sam then ey? It's only a few month back you claimed he was a fat jaded British manager who bored you to to tears. You even put him in the same bracket as Bruce! You're beyond parody now mind! :lol:
 
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