WHO hasn't ruled out covid came from Wuhan lab



ElGuapo said:
Stealing from another man is moral? Why not ask for some bread? Isn't the fellow who owns the bread moral enough to be ASKED for some of his bread?
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We don't know the morality of the other man. If I saw a hungry man I would feed them before they starved and others may not. The fact that a man was on the point of starvation suggests people around him were not moral enough to prevent this.

I would kill someone to stop my kids starving if that was my only option.
Mickdundee said:
I thought it was a bat, not a Labrador.
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Blame Canada :eek:
 
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I think all you need to know about China's stance regards Covid is that none of their numbers are included in any world overview.
Currently they claim since the start.......

90,115 cases and 4,636 deaths in a population of 1,442 million
 
Its seems like bats are the most likely root cause.

What are bats good for? Do they provide any actual benefit to the world?

Otherwise surely we should investigate how to wipe them out.
 
KeefBeer said:
I think all you need to know about China's stance regards Covid is that none of their numbers are included in any world overview.
Currently they claim since the start.......

90,115 cases and 4,636 deaths in a population of 1,442 million
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I think they just need to move the decimal point the right and we should get a clearer idea.

More likely to be closer to 463,600 deaths from 9,011,500 cases than their official ones
 
FootballFan said:
Its seems like bats are the most likely root cause.

What are bats good for? Do they provide any actual benefit to the world?

Otherwise surely we should investigate how to wipe them out.
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Bat as food - Wikipedia

propably far more nutrition than the whole of Greggs
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Bat Nutrition Facts

Calories in cup (112 g.) - 239 cal. Rich in vitamins and minerals (73.2%/cal) - a good source of Potassium, Vitamin A, Calcium and Vitamin C.
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FootballFan said:
Its seems like bats are the most likely root cause.

What are bats good for? Do they provide any actual benefit to the world?

Otherwise surely we should investigate how to wipe them out.
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If you ever need to do a loft conversion, and you have evidence of bats...say nothing! The powers of the Bat Gestapo are total.

There are 60 viruses that are carried by bats.
 
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From the beeb, The WHO are not quite dropping the lab theory yet.

The head of the World Health Organization (WHO) is calling for investigators probing how the pandemic started to look deeper into a theory about a possible lab incident, which they all but rejected.

"Although the team has concluded that a laboratory leak is the least likely hypothesis, this requires further investigation, potentially with additional missions involving specialist experts, which I am ready to deploy," Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus says.

He has been speaking at a briefing ahead of a long-awaited report into the origins of the virus, which follows a mission to the Chinese city of Wuhan.

The WHO chief also suggests investigators had difficulty accessing information during the trip.

"I expect future collaborative studies to include more timely and comprehensive data sharing," he says.
 
spitfire said:
From the beeb, The WHO are not quite dropping the lab theory yet.

The head of the World Health Organization (WHO) is calling for investigators probing how the pandemic started to look deeper into a theory about a possible lab incident, which they all but rejected.

"Although the team has concluded that a laboratory leak is the least likely hypothesis, this requires further investigation, potentially with additional missions involving specialist experts, which I am ready to deploy," Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus says.

He has been speaking at a briefing ahead of a long-awaited report into the origins of the virus, which follows a mission to the Chinese city of Wuhan.

The WHO chief also suggests investigators had difficulty accessing information during the trip.

"I expect future collaborative studies to include more timely and comprehensive data sharing," he says.
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Nothing to hide, my arse.
 
The Wuhan Institute of Virology was/is, a Level 4 Biosafety facility where scientists were researching coronaviruses, including viruses gleaned from bats.

Doesn't mean the virus came from the lab. But considering the pressure China puts the WHO under and the repercussions for China in world opinion etc. if indeed an accident leak kicked this off (and we all know only too well how quickly COVID spreads) then it would seem a bit hasty to totally dismiss the possibility.
 
I had this discussion with my father a while back and posted it on the initial outbreak thread a year ago. For anyone interested, he's one of the most cited biochemists for Coronavirus, is on a US government advisory panel, and was recently invited into the The Royal Society of Medicine for his work on the virus. He's also from Sunderland, so basically, a top lad all round. He's keen to stop the spread of conspiracy theories. He informs me that whilst it is highly suspect, there is no direct evidence connecting an outbreak. It could genuinely be coincidence it is from the labs, and if it is the Wuham market that was to blame, then that's the connection within the city. What is irregular however, is that once the virus broke out of Wuhan and the world became interested, a near identical fully sequenced virus appeared on Genebank, posted by the Chinese. As this takes a while it is presumably an old one. Whilst this does not mean a cover up or any form of conspiracy, it does mean that the other close relative sequenced virus was known about prior to the outbreak and for whatever reason, not published. Apparently this is common (they are under no obligations to publish) but a little bit naughty.
 
ReidysLeftLug said:
"Last month, the mission rejected speculation that the coronavirus could have leaked from a lab and said instead that it may have jumped to humans through an animal host or frozen wildlife products. WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus later said the United Nations agency hasn’t ruled out any hypotheses."

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Bloomberg talking about this on the news now.

Needed it's own thread imo.
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"its spread from a lab myth" is a tired old tale and it has been trotted out before ....AIDS,Ebola,Lyme disease ,bird flu...........its all bollocks!
 
FootballFan said:
Its seems like bats are the most likely root cause.

What are bats good for? Do they provide any actual benefit to the world?

Otherwise surely we should investigate how to wipe them out.
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Well for a start you'd have no cricket, tennis, badminton, table tennis, seal clubbing or baseball so don't be too hasty.
 
I have no idea why we've never found succesful vaccines for 198 sub type flu viruses...maybe because they evoloved or crossed over in a natural way. My view when the Wuhan Lab suspicions came to light was thus: If it was made in a lab, then a vaccine will be found, as in "Man made, man found"
 
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I haven’t ruled it out, there has been no evidence to suggest where it came from yet. WHO say it wasn’r due to a leak without evidence to prove that, there is something fishy about how the virus jumped to humans, there is a process that it appears to have jumped.
 

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