where has my country gone?


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id have drawn attention to the fact that someone on the dole could have done it rather than the somali

I'm talking about supply and demand. the working class gets shafted because employer don't want to pay a living wage for menial work.

it probably makes the GDP of the country better but not for the poor fuckers at the bottom.

As long as we have unemployed people - and therefore more people than jobs - there should not be a chronic shortage of cleaners.

It's not as simple as that. IMHO.
 
I'm talking about supply and demand. the working class gets shafted because employer don't want to pay a living wage for menial work.

it probably makes the GDP of the country better but not for the poor fuckers at the bottom.



It's not as simple as that. IMHO.

how much do you think someone should be paid for mopping toilets?
 
I'm talking about supply and demand. the working class gets shafted because employer don't want to pay a living wage for menial work.

it probably makes the GDP of the country better but not for the poor fuckers at the bottom.



It's not as simple as that. IMHO.

The minimum wage is a living wage.
 
If the Somali wasn't cleaning the bogs they might have to pay decent wages to unskilled labour and the UK might be a more equal society.

Pure supply and demand.

if there is a chronic shortage, then give people temporary visa.

Just common sense really.
 
As long as we have unemployed people - and therefore more people than jobs - there should not be a chronic shortage of cleaners.

How can you create a situation where you can earn more from their cleaning job than they can get from benefits on the dole?
 
like any job, it depends on supply and demand.



It isn't.

If it was, they wouldn't have to dole out family tax credits and the like.

without seeming too mercenary , some people just dont have what it takes to be successful and they are lucky that as a species we are benevolent , as a dolphin they would be drowned
 
without seeming too mercenary , some people just dont have what it takes to be successful and they are lucky that as a species we are benevolent , as a dolphin they would be drowned

If everybody was successful they would have to take turns cleaning the bogs.

As a society we are lucky some people are content cleaning bogs.

We could always just import a load of Bangladeshis.
 
It isn't.

If it was, they wouldn't have to dole out family tax credits and the like.

Yeah, but they do all that, meaning that people on minimum wage can afford to live.

It would be a very lean existence of course, and it would be great if the minimum wage paid more, but it's just not feasible.
 
How can you create a situation where you can earn more from their cleaning job than they can get from benefits on the dole?

My understanding is that you can't claim unemployment benefits without first having to prove that you're attempting to find work. In this scenario of a 'cleaner shortage', the unemployed would have no option to take the work - earn minimum wage or get no money whatsoever.
 
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