where has my country gone?


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Immigration is fine but if there is no control the numbers become to great and the competition for jobs, money, women etc causes racial tensions its the way it is and people seem to look after their own. In Bradford I never seen a white taxi driver, is it because no white men want a job as a taxi driver?

Ther is a clear racial divide which needs addressing.

No, I agree. It needs adressing certainly. I'm not advocating things should stay as they are.

It's just the way folk suggest that racial tension and unemployment, competition and the complexities of the Welfare state are somehow indicative of a terrible low ebb for Britain ('where has my country gone') as opposed to part and parcel of living in a democratic capitalist nation in a globalized world.

The only other alternative Britain has had so far is constant war, nepotism, subsistence living for the majority and white racial tension rather than coloured racial tension. Yes, life isn't perfect, and it can be hard, but compared to the majority of people who ever lived we'll be amongst the luckiest in existence. Some people just need to man up, shut up and count their blessings like.
 
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The planet survived for billions of years before we drew lines across it to say "this bit belongs to this little subgroup of animals on this tiny twig of the family tree of life".

And since we did, what effect has it had? Groups of people warring with each other because they want more land on their side of the line!

Personally, my border is on the outside of the universe, encompassing all the galaxies within.

All life is part of my family and I refuse to exclude any of my family for being born in the wrong place.

If that makes me a hippy, then so be it. :cool:

You happily take the benefits of living in a developed country. If the borders were opened tomorrow most people in this country would be fucked.

It's a lovely big world but it's much nicer in the rich bit.
 
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The planet survived for billions of years before we drew lines across it to say "this bit belongs to this little subgroup of animals on this tiny twig of the family tree of life".

And since we did, what effect has it had? Groups of people warring with each other because they want more land on their side of the line!

Personally, my border is on the outside of the universe, encompassing all the galaxies within.

All life is part of my family and I refuse to exclude any of my family for being born in the wrong place.

If that makes me a hippy, then so be it. :cool:

Yes but some of us have evolved.
 
No, I agree. It needs adressing certainly. I'm not advocating things should stay as they are.

It's just the way folk suggest that racial tension and unemployment, competition and the complexities of the Welfare state are somehow indicative of a terrible low ebb for Britain ('where has my country gone') as opposed to part and parcel of living in a democratic capitalist nation in a globalized world.

The only other alternative Britain has had so far is constant war, nepotism, subsistence living for the majority and white racial tension rather than coloured racial tension. Yes, life isn't perfect, and it can be hard, but compared to the majority of people who ever lived we'll be amongst the luckiest in existence. Some people just need to man up like.

True, before todays racial tensions it was tensions based on class ie poor vs wealthy. People will always find a way of dividing its human nature. On holiday its 'We are English' then when its full of english its 'we are from the north east' then if its full of the North East 'We are from Sunderland' .

I just think rather than allowing uncontrolled immigration the government needs to tackle the issues society now has. As someone quite rightly pointed out ethnic groups have came here and built their own communities, shops, places of worship, businesses, housing areas etc rather than being integrated within the british society. Im not saying they should adopt all out beliefs etc but the way things are encourages a 'us' and 'Them' state.
 
I never believed that, in this day and age, there was so much racial intolerance.

P.S. For my money, all you Romans, Normans, Angles and Saxons should f*ck off back to Europe and leave Britain for the Britons, and Celts.
 
True, before todays racial tensions it was tensions based on class ie poor vs wealthy. People will always find a way of dividing its human nature. On holiday its 'We are English' then when its full of english its 'we are from the north east' then if its full of the North East 'We are from Sunderland' .

I just think rather than allowing uncontrolled immigration the government needs to tackle the issues society now has. As someone quite rightly pointed out ethnic groups have came here and built their own communities, shops, places of worship, businesses, housing areas etc rather than being integrated within the british society. Im not saying they should adopt all out beliefs etc but the way things are encourages a 'us' and 'Them' state.

People said the same in the sixties and seventies, on the whole, but things have lessened over time. There hasn't been long enough to judge how community integration will go. Ten years is nothing, not even half a generation. Government measures to force or coerce ethnic integration are notoriously dangerous as well.

Also (not aimed at anyone in particular this)-what are "our" communities? Western Britain is amongst the most selfish, isolated, non communal of all societies these days. Where is the oppurtunity to integrate when people don't have a communal church where they meet, or a local increasingly, or a village green, or a community centre or what have you, or centralised communal jobs? Where are these fictional points of community that people should be blending into? In my experience most people in the UK are protective of themselves, there's nothing communal about them.
 
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Its the immigrants who are working and claiming benefits that concern me............

Is that a real problem ? Are you saying they are fiddling ?
I would think if someone was working and on benefits it would be more likely because employers are paying such low wages that it is government policy to subsidise employers by topping up the pittance they are paid. Everyone on low wages are entitled to claim certain benefits.
 
People said the same in the sixties and seventies, on the whole, but things have lessened over time. There hasn't been long enough to judge how community integration will go. Ten years is nothing, not even half a generation.

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Try telling that to the people of Bradford, Burnley, Oldham etc...

Who have all had their towns transformed through immigration and not surprisingly seen more than its fair share of social/racial tension followed by violence and rioting...
 
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