when's Mensah due back?


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Aye, we did. All the things you mention didn't count at the end of the day. Bramble playing doesn't equate to the opposition having no shots, or no goals conceded, or no balls being cleared off the line. Spurs were more dangerous than Everton last night in terms of chances created, and that was with Bramble playing.

Bramble has been excellent for us but that's not to say we're doomed without him. Ferdinand was doing fine before he got injured, and he did alright last night as well, perfectly acceptable stand in.

Anton, is it you??

when did he do allright?? When he scored owngoals? when he caused penalties? When he had his obligatory blackouts?

All he did yesterday was heading clearances to the opposition, passing back to Gordon X50 and let Cahill do whatever he liked...and of course ridiculously stumbling over the ball at minute 94 to let them finish us off.
 
Anybody know?

We are in real bother if both him and Bramble are out over the next few weeks.
Dont you know that accepted wisdom on here is that Bruce bought only CB's during the summer.
Oh how we laughed and slapped our thighs in mirth at the oft repeated gag

Anton, is it you??

when did he do allright?? When he scored owngoals? when he caused penalties? When he had his obligatory blackouts?

All he did yesterday was heading clearances to the opposition, passing back to Gordon X50 and let Cahill do whatever he liked...and of course ridiculously stumbling over the ball at minute 94 to let them finish us off.
They finished us off?
 
Anton, is it you??

when did he do allright?? When he scored owngoals? when he caused penalties? When he had his obligatory blackouts?

All he did yesterday was heading clearances to the opposition, passing back to Gordon X50 and let Cahill do whatever he liked...and of course ridiculously stumbling over the ball at minute 94 to let them finish us off.

Most impressive own goal I've ever seen mind. Don't recall which penalty he caused so you'll have to remind me on that one. Obligatory blackouts, again, you'll need to remind me. We didn't concede many the few he played-think it was just his own goal, in fact.

In regards to yesterday, Anton was no worse than Nedum, and only Bardo was a real stand out in terms of being a footballing defender yesterday.

I don't think he's great or anything, but there's nothing to suggest our team is built on Bramble alone and that Ferdinand will undermine the whole operation, which is more or less what's being suggested. He's fine as a stand in.
 
How are we in real bother? We managed without him last night and the defensive partnership will get better with more games. I'm not a fan of Ferdinand and he wasn't great last night but he was far from shocking and for the first time in as long as I can remember we have enough strength in depth to cope with this kind of situation.

Obviously if we lose every game from now until Bramble or Mensah returns feel free to tell me how wrong I was but until then I won't be losing any sleep over the injuries.

Phew! thats a relief. The original poster is obviously right, if we are without Bramble and Mensah for any length of time we are definitely weaker.
 
I think we are definitely better of than last year- we ended up having Cana playing CB against Chelsea!!
 
Most impressive own goal I've ever seen mind. Don't recall which penalty he caused so you'll have to remind me on that one. Obligatory blackouts, again, you'll need to remind me. We didn't concede many the few he played-think it was just his own goal, in fact.

In regards to yesterday, Anton was no worse than Nedum, and only Bardo was a real stand out in terms of being a footballing defender yesterday.

I don't think he's great or anything, but there's nothing to suggest our team is built on Bramble alone and that Ferdinand will undermine the whole operation, which is more or less what's being suggested. He's fine as a stand in.

Most sickening one against ManUtd. Game was won and Evras shot goes wide, only for Mr.Blackout to slide in and save a point for ManUtd

Penalty: Against Burnley for example
 
Most sickening one against ManUtd. Game was won and Evras shot goes wide, only for Mr.Blackout to slide in and save a point for ManUtd

Penalty: Against Burnley for example

Aye, and Noz was rubbish that season as well. But that was then eh? Based on this season, the one we're competing in, now, he's been fine. Welbeck wasn't much good last season either, he's doing all right just now though.
 
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Ah right, so your just ignoring any decent things Ferdinand did now then? Fair enough then

Aye, and Noz was rubbish that season as well. But that was then eh? Based on this season, the one we're competing in, now, he's been fine. Welbeck wasn't much good last season either, he's doing all right just now though.
I have been pleasantly surprised by Ferdinand this season, especially his attitude after Bruce tried to sell him in the summer.

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http://www.skysports.com/football/match_commentary/0,19764,11065_3293532,00.html

90+1 minutes is the incident I am talking about. So your prejudices are clouding your judgements.
 
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i thought the whole team was relatively poor yesterday compared to our last few games, the goals didnt come from massive mistakes by the centre backs, and if arteta didnt get a deflected shot we may have won it. its not just down to the centre backs to defend its the whole team, and yesterday the midfield to me didnt track back as hard as usual
 
Ah right, so your just ignoring any decent things Ferdinand did now then? Fair enough then


I have been pleasantly surprised by Ferdinand this season, especially his attitude after Bruce tried to sell him in the summer.


http://www.skysports.com/football/match_commentary/0,19764,11065_3293532,00.html

90+1 minutes is the incident I am talking about. So your prejudices are clouding your judgements.

And did you see all the other incidents??

Did you see the goal line clearance of Turner, when Cahill repeatidly tricked Anton

Did you see the numerous clearances of Ferdinand that went to the opposition

Did you see his numerous unneccessary back passes to Gordon

Did you feel comfortable about Cahill all evening

Did you feel the unease and fear in the audience everytime Anton has the ball??

And have a look at the 90+4 incident, where Ferdinand has yet another blackout and misses the ball. Luckily Bedford missed.

Aye, and Noz was rubbish that season as well. But that was then eh? Based on this season, the one we're competing in, now, he's been fine. Welbeck wasn't much good last season either, he's doing all right just now though.

Noz did not play much last season, did he?

Turner was first choice, and the pairing with Ferdinand has not worked last season either. They don`t match.
 
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Biggest problem last night was Gordon coming out and flapping at anything in the air.Not his fault, more a lack of confidence in his centre halfs yet again as shown by the first goal.Lack of communication from another partnership.
It is his fault though, his lack of communication with the back four and failure to dominate his area has been evident since he arrived. When he does come out he struggles to get the ball. That said I think both centre backs and centre midfield were poor last night.
 
It is his fault though, his lack of communication with the back four and failure to dominate his area has been evident since he arrived. When he does come out he struggles to get the ball. That said I think both centre backs and centre midfield were poor last night.

Funny - Gordon was playing blinders when Titus was in the team. The back 5 (including the keeper) needs to defend as a unit. That does not happen when Anton is in the team. I don't know why not. I'm afraid I would have almost anyone as centre back other than him. I would move Ned to the centre Bardsley to the right and have kieran as left back if Bruce is dead set against PDS and Mensah isn't fit.
Gordon obviously has no faith in Anton and that is part of the problem.
 
Funny - Gordon was playing blinders when Titus was in the team. The back 5 (including the keeper) needs to defend as a unit. That does not happen when Anton is in the team. I don't know why not. I'm afraid I would have almost anyone as centre back other than him. I would move Ned to the centre Bardsley to the right and have kieran as left back if Bruce is dead set against PDS and Mensah isn't fit.
Gordon obviously has no faith in Anton and that is part of the problem.

Fully agree.No one picked up Cahill for the first so from then on it was panick every time the ball was thrown into the box.If your keeper has no confidence in his centre backs he ends up chasing out and flapping at everything and not getting to much.Did not happen anywhere near as much when we had Turner(who is by no means perfect but is playing better) and Bramble together.
 
And did you see all the other incidents??

Did you see the goal line clearance of Turner, when Cahill repeatidly tricked Anton

Did you see the numerous clearances of

Turner was first choice, and the pairing with Ferdinand has not worked last season either. They don`t match.

Yep I saw all that but I also saw some good from him.

Did ya see Cahill lose turner for the first goal?

Fully agree.No one picked up Cahill for the first so from then on it was panick every time the ball was thrown into the box.If your keeper has no confidence in his centre backs he ends up chasing out and flapping at everything and not getting to much.Did not happen anywhere near as much when we had Turner(who is by no means perfect but is playing better) and Bramble together.

It didn't happen when Ferdinand partnered bramble either.
 
Fully agree.No one picked up Cahill for the first so from then on it was panick every time the ball was thrown into the box.If your keeper has no confidence in his centre backs he ends up chasing out and flapping at everything and not getting to much.Did not happen anywhere near as much when we had Turner(who is by no means perfect but is playing better) and Bramble together.
We'll just have to agree to disagree lads, Gordon only played twice with Bramble, but as I said previously, he doesn't communicate well, dominate his area no matter who is in front of him. That side of Mignolet's game is much better than Gordon's IMHO.
Agree with your comments regarding Ferdinand being a loose cannon, Turner - not a fan at all.
Hurry back Titus and Mensah
 
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