What actually is a data driven recruitment method


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I agree mate. I just don't think the new owner can afford a sub-par season.

I hope he isn't thin skinned but you know.. whats the worse thats going to happen, folk get pissed off that we don't go up?

I know we've had the discussion before about best process not being fan lead but I think its true, there is no reason for us to expect anyone at all to come into the club and finance it. This season should be a good one for Ipswich fans but then that's it unless they do the same thing again next, all to the tune of hundreds of millions of pounds.
 
He was absolutely ahead of his time, sport science and all that.

But players wise, okacha, anelka, djorkaef, hierro etc weren't data led. Id suggest they came with a lot agents and not to forget it almost bankrupt the club long term.

I think it was a more specific data set up than the modern day, dont shoot outside area due to x% success, hit 20 crosses from this area to point b as it equals x probability.

Could be wrong of course.


Which part?
That Doyle, Pritchard and Evans are not data led signings.
 
Two players coming down from the Championship and a highly rated Premier League youth players won’t have been “free”.

They don’t fit any data driven reason for me?

Can’t resell. No stats of any note due to injuries.
Not knocking these signings by the way, just think it doesn’t show we are following a ‘model’
 
He was absolutely ahead of his time, sport science and all that.

But players wise, okacha, anelka, djorkaef, hierro etc weren't data led. Id suggest they came with a lot agents and not to forget it almost bankrupt the club long term.

I think it was a more specific data set up than the modern day, dont shoot outside area due to x% success, hit 20 crosses from this area to point b as it equals x probability.

Could be wrong of course.


Which part?
Bolton were a good deal more than those names.

If you think data led equates to no agent involvement you are misguided. You can get the best analysts in the world on side but if you cannot close a deal you are screwed. This is a people game, and we would do well to brush up on our professionalism when it comes to personal skills as much as data, if you are clever you learn from others from within, and they want to work with you, that being the case we would have filled our squad with talented prospects from "bigger" hitters than us.
 
The last 20 years happened :lol:

What is it with people on here. We've just caught up with more modern methods to complement the old school methods. It's just another tool to utilise.

There won't be many clubs at this level able to invest in and use it as much as us, so hopefully it gives us an advantage, but it takes time to make the best use of it.

It goes a little beyond goals and assist stats mate.
Why does it take time to make use of it. If the players are there that the data stands up with and are within our budget then I really don’t get what you are saying here.
 
They don’t fit any data driven reason for me?

Can’t resell. No stats of any note due to injuries.
Not knocking these signings by the way, just think it doesn’t show we are following a ‘model’

Perhaps not. They’re not free though, despite how they’re badged, which is what I picked up on. Apologies if that wasn’t your point.
 
Why does it take time to make use of it. If the players are there that the data stands up with and are within our budget then I really don’t get what you are saying here.
Because its not just a simple spreadsheet. Over time you fine tune and utilise the data to suit your playing style and objectives etc.

We should see benefits early on I'd hope but it's also about signing potential and reaping the rewards later.
 
The last 20 years happened :lol:

What is it with people on here. We've just caught up with more modern methods to complement the old school methods. It's just another tool to utilise.

There won't be many clubs at this level able to invest in and use it as much as us, so hopefully it gives us an advantage, but it takes time to make the best use of it.

It goes a little beyond goals and assist stats mate.
Genuine question , why is it expensive?
 
Genuine question , why is it expensive?
Who said it was expensive?

EDIT: I guess you mean why can't every L1 club afford it.

The database/systems themselves cost a lot and there are various levels available to different clubs. It's not that L1 clubs can't do it, and as has been said in this thread, everyone uses data to some extent, but to implement it like we are meant to be takes a decent sized team, and a fair bit of initial investment. Our operation seems a canny size. I'd guess probably nearer the top teams in the division above.
 
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Who said it was expensive?
You said “ there won’t be many clubs at this level able to invest in it and use it as much as us “ I assume you mean’t for financial reasons ?
People who are genuinely good with data command high salaries.
How many “people” do you need? Am thinking as an alternative to a scouting network that are being paid to travel a lot , stay in hotels etc.
 
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You said “ there won’t be many clubs at this level able to invest in it and use it as much as us “ I assume you mean’t for financial reasons ?

How many “people” do you need? Am thinking as an alternative to a scouting network that are being paid to travel a lot , stay in hotels etc.
But they’ll still have a scouting network being paid to travel a lot, it’s just that the players/matches they are being paid to watch/attend are dictated by the data analysis.
 
You said “ there won’t be many clubs at this level able to invest in it and use it as much as us “ I assume you mean’t for financial reasons ?

How many “people” do you need? Am thinking as an alternative to a scouting network that are being paid to travel a lot , stay in hotels etc.
Its alongside the scouting network mate.
 
He was absolutely ahead of his time, sport science and all that.

But players wise, okacha, anelka, djorkaef, hierro etc weren't data led. Id suggest they came with a lot agents and not to forget it almost bankrupt the club long term.

I think it was a more specific data set up than the modern day, dont shoot outside area due to x% success, hit 20 crosses from this area to point b as it equals x probability.

Could be wrong of course.


Which part?
I replied mate. Can you elaborate? Or confirm its your guess / made up. Would be interesting and useful thanks.
 
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