Welbeck for Henderson


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1 bad game and Henderson is shit. I love this board like :lol:

I like how they're all so well placed to make a judgement which flies in the face of Bruce, Ferguson and Capello...could it be that the posters maybe don't understand the game well enough to see what he brings to the team?
 
Henderson is a young lad playing in the the toughest position in one of the best leagues in the world. His form has dipped a bit but selling him now would be a BIG mistake IMO. Sell him to the mags for 10m when he's 32 and his legs have gone.
 
1 bad game and Henderson is shit. I love this board like :lol:

I was looking forward to seeing if he would make the step up from last season, and have watched him closely since game 1. All I've seen so far is an average cm with some talent that may or may not be realised, a load of people defending his magical secret qualities that aren't shared by any other midfielder of note anyone would care to mention but yet are somehow indicative of the next Gerrard being amongst our ranks, and a press bandwagon which is six months late to the party in suggesting how talented he is.

He's had an average season, and largely average games, with a few bad ones. If he was playing anywhere else noone on here would rate him whatsover, but because he's a local lad he's the next big thing. I support him as much as anyone else in the team, and hope he comes good, but I won't lie about him and say that he's even so much as a talent just now because there is little to suggest that, and I've not come across anyone on here who has been able to defend him beyond telling me I don't know how football works.

Good CM's are very notable when they play well, Jordan has been anonymous for the majority of game's I'm afraid.
 
Right, Bruce wants Welbeck, Fergie has reportedly asked to be kept updated on Hendo. Could a swap deal be on the cards? Would you be happy with a swap?

To be honest, I think Henderson is a little overrated. His set pieces are usually poor, he doesn't score many, he can be sloppy at times. I think he could be replaced for less than it'd cost to buy another Welbeck. I'd be happy to take a swap.

We are not talking about motorbikes here !!

We talk about young talented English lads and surely it matters what they want first.
Both seem to me good enough to have a bright future at any Premiership club.


Why would Welbeck, who is one of the brightest young English talents want to leave the biggest English club and head towards Sunderland, where his chances to play Champions League are nil. Another loan deal? yes! but never a permanent move, until he gets told by SAF that he is not part of his plans.
 
Henderson is a young lad playing in the the toughest position in one of the best leagues in the world. His form has dipped a bit but selling him now would be a BIG mistake IMO. Sell him to the mags for 10m when he's 32 and his legs have gone.
to not sell him for £15mill+ would be insane
 
I like how they're all so well placed to make a judgement which flies in the face of Bruce, Ferguson and Capello...could it be that the posters maybe don't understand the game well enough to see what he brings to the team?

you were doing well til here
 
i doubt it right now, henderson's value is going down and welbeck value is going up at the present time .... need henderson to pick up some form for it to be a likely option

:lol: Do players prices fluctuate on a game by game basis like? In what way is Hendersons value dropping? If we sold him now would it be for less than we could have sold him for 4 games ago? :lol: f***ing hell its like painting by numbers for football with you isnt it.
 
I like how they're all so well placed to make a judgement which flies in the face of Bruce, Ferguson and Capello...could it be that the posters maybe don't understand the game well enough to see what he brings to the team?

Examples? Don't just say "good passing"-stand out examples of when he's done it, the sort that make it evident that he is a real talent. I can name stand out moments for Cattermole, even, so if Jordan is so impressive then there must be a few you can recall. I was defending Gyan before his first start on here when the majority were saying he was shit, and I was able to give moments when he'd done something impressive without too much difficulty, beyond just scoring. If you can't then I suggest you haven't been watching him too much, in which case your opinion is hardly that worthy, or on the other hand there just aren't that many moments.

And there's nothing wrong with that, if that is the case. He's an alright cm, he does a job, that's fine. It's this notion that he's a prodigy that I don't get and that I'm somehow a bad person/footballing dunce if I don't see this.
 
:lol: Do players prices fluctuate on a game by game basis like? In what way is Hendersons value dropping? If we sold him now would it be for less than we could have sold him for 4 games ago? :lol: f***ing hell its like painting by numbers for football with you isnt it.

there was a big tournament in summer think that should answer that question :oops:

well its not the £20m the papers had him down as anymore :lol:
 
Examples? Don't just say "good passing"-stand out examples of when he's done it, the sort that make it evident that he is a real talent. I can name stand out moments for Cattermole, even, so if Jordan is so impressive then there must be a few you can recall. I was defending Gyan before his first start on here when the majority were saying he was shit, and I was able to give moments when he'd done something impressive without too much difficulty, beyond just scoring. If you can't then I suggest you haven't been watching him too much, in which case your opinion is hardly that worthy, or on the other hand there just aren't that many moments.

And there's nothing wrong with that, if that is the case. He's an alright cm, he does a job, that's fine. It's this notion that he's a prodigy that I don't get and that I'm somehow a bad person/footballing dunce if I don't see this.

He skipped past Evra at Old Trafford last season.

Great run and cross vs Wigan for Jones to equalise

Passing against Blackburn earlier this season was brilliant

His quick, short, one touch passes are something we havent had in midfield for years and because of this many fans dont appreciate them. These quick passes create so much more space for our other players and keep the game flowing.

there was a big tournament in summer think that should answer that question :oops:

well its not the £20m the papers had him down as anymore :lol:

Ah right, so world cup is the same as league games. :lol::oops:

And you are taking the papers word as fact now eh? I'll assure you, whatever Ferguson rated him at 4 weeks ago will be pretty much the same as he is rated at by Ferguson now.
 
Gotta love this place, only a few weeks back Welbeck was shite and Henderson the best thing since sliced bread. Apparently Bent isnt very good either these days :lol:

i doubt it right now, henderson's value is going down and welbeck value is going up at the present time .... need henderson to pick up some form for it to be a likely option

what a load of bollox.

he has just broke into the national set up ffs.

is it because he didnt have too good a game on Monday? :roll:
 
Ah right, so world cup is the same as league games. :lol::oops:

And you are taking the papers word as fact now eh? I'll assure you, whatever Ferguson rated him at 4 weeks ago will be pretty much the same as he is rated at by Ferguson now.

i see so world cup doesnt count :lol:

at no point did i ever think fergie would pay more for henderson then he would expect for welbeck
 
Gotta love this place, only a few weeks back Welbeck was shite and Henderson the best thing since sliced bread. Apparently Bent isnt very good either these days :lol:



what a load of bollox.

he has just broke into the national set up ffs.

is it because he didnt have too good a game on Monday? :roll:

he got a call up because wilshere had an injury and every paper said it was far too soon for him , hardly going to help his value ffs
 
i see so world cup doesnt count :lol:

at no point did i ever think fergie would pay more for henderson then he would expect for welbeck

Your a f***ing nut job mate. You are talking about Henderson's price going down in the past few weeks and using the world cup as an example of how this can happen! :lol: :lol:

Oh and by the way.... Henderson would sell for more than Welbeck.... this is not even an opinion it is pretty much FACT.
 
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