Weasel Handcock Blaming Patients For Care Home Deaths

After passing the buck to clinicians, he is now saying the spread of covid into care homes was because patients were asymptomatic and the Government were unaware people could have the virus but not show symptoms.
There was evidence of asymptomatic carriers in February whilst this Government allowed patients to be moved in to care homes without being tested.
 


Where is he blaming them by saying that? It sounds like he's admitting they didn't know people who were asymptomatic could spread the virus to me. The government have undoubtedly made fuck ups, but we can't accuse them of twisting things then do it ourselves.
The Government did know and they also knew they did not have enough tests available to test everyone and still allowed patients be moved into care homes but will not admit responsibility.
 
Where is he blaming them by saying that? It sounds like he's admitting they didn't know people who were asymptomatic could spread the virus to me. The government have undoubtedly made fuck ups, but we can't accuse them of twisting things then do it ourselves.

This forum is the king of spin and twist.
It must have more than the internet’s average of idiots frequenting it.

All good for the entertainment factor.
The Government did know and they also knew they did not have enough tests available to test everyone and still allowed patients be moved into care homes but will not admit responsibility.

You been reading twitter?
 
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On the Marr show this morning.
The discharged patients were apparently asymptomatic and the Government was supposedly unaware that people with the virus might not show symptoms.
As I said this was known about at least as far back as early February and the knacker did know because he requested people self isolate for 14 days precisely because they might have the virus and not show symptoms immediately.
 
He is effectively admitting that Gov didn't think it through

Ie they made mistakes

They were culpable - and that will all be clearly seen in a future enquiry

As will the fact that this Gov were fixating on Brexit in Jan-Feb- March with a part time PM that didn't study his brief.

Now we need them to FOCUS and make sure it never happens again.

The Govs fate will be decided in future elections.
 
I only just found out yesterday that he used to be the minister for Portsmouth in 2014/15. He obviously made a lasting impression on me in the job.
 
On the Marr show this morning.
The discharged patients were apparently asymptomatic and the Government was supposedly unaware that people with the virus might not show symptoms.
As I said this was known about at least as far back as early February and the knacker did know because he requested people self isolate for 14 days precisely because they might have the virus and not show symptoms immediately.

Half a like for your post and half a like for your Avatar.
 
On the Marr show this morning.
The discharged patients were apparently asymptomatic and the Government was supposedly unaware that people with the virus might not show symptoms.
As I said this was known about at least as far back as early February and the knacker did know because he requested people self isolate for 14 days precisely because they might have the virus and not show symptoms immediately.
Still can't see how he has said it's the fault of the residents almost 30 thousand people died in care homes.
 
Where is he blaming them by saying that? It sounds like he's admitting they didn't know people who were asymptomatic could spread the virus to me. The government have undoubtedly made fuck ups, but we can't accuse them of twisting things then do it ourselves.
Fair enough. The whole world knew about asymptomatic cases apart from cock and co ?
I actually could believe that knowing how thick this lot are.
 
No, commenting on Handcock's interview on the Marr show.
Clearly refusing to admit responsibility for his and his Government's failings and deliberately attempting to mislead the people of the UK by making false statements.

This government can't bring themselves to admit their obvious mistakes and to hear Bozo talking you'd think they hadn't put a foot wrong.
Bunch of spoofers.
 
No, commenting on Handcock's interview on the Marr show.
Clearly refusing to admit responsibility for his and his Government's failings and deliberately attempting to mislead the people of the UK by making false statements.

You do realise everything is documented on the internet and you can easily go back and take a look at the advice at the time.

The government are not medical experts and have to listen to those that are supposed to know what they are doing.

Yes there have been failings but to say deliberately mislead, mislead for what purpose?
 
You do realise everything is documented on the internet and you can easily go back and take a look at the advice at the time.

The government are not medical experts and have to listen to those that are supposed to know what they are doing.

Yes there have been failings but to say deliberately mislead, mislead for what purpose?
Let's start in late February. The twat seen no issues in care homes and all staff needed to do was wash hands only, good advice or stupidity ? Over to you Joe.
 
I'm losing track here- NHS Good or NHS Bad ?

From the head of the NHS on Marr..


The Chief Exec of the NHS has defended a decision which saw hospitals offload thousands of potentially Covid-19 infected patients into care homes at the start of the coronavirus crisis.

On 17 March, NHS England and NHS Improvement wrote to trusts telling them to “expand critical care capacity to the maximum” by freeing up beds - meaning many patients were sent to care homes.

Experts now fear that moving these patients, many of whom could have been carrying coronavirus without symptoms, could have seeded the virus in care homes, which struggled more than hospitals to access lifesaving PPE as the crisis continued.

On Friday, the Office for National Statistics said that almost 30,000 more care home residents in England and Wales died during the coronavirus outbreak than during the same period in 2019, with two-thirds directly attributable to Covid-19.

But Sir Simon Stevens told the BBC's Andrew Marr programme that hospitals acted responsibly with the information they had at the time.

Sir Simon stressed that hospitals would not knowingly have discharged anyone who was infected, that how virus was understood was changing rapidly.

He said: "Hospitals were absolutely right to make sure they had the ability to look after the huge wave of patients that were on their way.

"Hospitals did the right thing.”

He told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show on Sunday that there was "considerable concern" about the potential impact of the disease in March.

Sir Simon said: "In March we were looking at what was happening in Northern Italy, we were being advised by the epidemiologists and public health experts, and we could see as many as two million people requiring hospital care of whom perhaps a third might require intensive care.

"So yes there was considerable concern.

"If you think about the actions that had to be taken to free up hospital capacity so that in a few short weeks we were able to successfully look after 100,000 coronavirus patients who needed specialist emergency care, that was something that was not inevitable."
 
I'm losing track here- NHS Good or NHS Bad ?

From the head of the NHS on Marr..


The Chief Exec of the NHS has defended a decision which saw hospitals offload thousands of potentially Covid-19 infected patients into care homes at the start of the coronavirus crisis.

On 17 March, NHS England and NHS Improvement wrote to trusts telling them to “expand critical care capacity to the maximum” by freeing up beds - meaning many patients were sent to care homes.

Experts now fear that moving these patients, many of whom could have been carrying coronavirus without symptoms, could have seeded the virus in care homes, which struggled more than hospitals to access lifesaving PPE as the crisis continued.

On Friday, the Office for National Statistics said that almost 30,000 more care home residents in England and Wales died during the coronavirus outbreak than during the same period in 2019, with two-thirds directly attributable to Covid-19.

But Sir Simon Stevens told the BBC's Andrew Marr programme that hospitals acted responsibly with the information they had at the time.

Sir Simon stressed that hospitals would not knowingly have discharged anyone who was infected, that how virus was understood was changing rapidly.

He said: "Hospitals were absolutely right to make sure they had the ability to look after the huge wave of patients that were on their way.

"Hospitals did the right thing.”

He told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show on Sunday that there was "considerable concern" about the potential impact of the disease in March.

Sir Simon said: "In March we were looking at what was happening in Northern Italy, we were being advised by the epidemiologists and public health experts, and we could see as many as two million people requiring hospital care of whom perhaps a third might require intensive care.

"So yes there was considerable concern.

"If you think about the actions that had to be taken to free up hospital capacity so that in a few short weeks we were able to successfully look after 100,000 coronavirus patients who needed specialist emergency care, that was something that was not inevitable."
All passing the buck.
If I go out in my truck knowing I had faulty brakes and killed someone by accident I wonder if this type of bullshit would stand up in court.
To me they are all scum.
 

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