Water shortages in England within 25 years



Hatred against who?
The South East, who have extracted everything else from the provinces, including taxes, our minerals and our young men to build their "Empire" and to fight in their foreign wars, and now are looking for a pretext to extract our water as well.

Or something like that.
 
It is a concern. If we were an island surrounded by water I wouldn't be concerned but unfortunately that's not the case.
 
This is all because the EA has prevented the water companies in the south from building new reservoirs.

There is plenty of water except in dry summers so we need storage. Instead EA are advocating smart metering and desalination. It’s crazy.
 
This is all because the EA has prevented the water companies in the south from building new reservoirs.

There is plenty of water except in dry summers so we need storage. Instead EA are advocating smart metering and desalination. It’s crazy.
No its because the UK government ploughs most of the infrastructure investment into the southeast, encouraging the population levels to rise out of control. Their water infrastructure is the oldest in the world and people use water like it's an infinite resource (it is but not down there). If an area can not sustain a population they should spread out a bit.

This is all because the EA has prevented the water companies in the south from building new reservoirs.

There is plenty of water except in dry summers so we need storage. Instead EA are advocating smart metering and desalination. It’s crazy.
What do you think will happen in an area already stressed by water shortages when they divert water away from natural water courses?
 
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Completely agree. We have massive but unequal water resources in the UK. Make a national grid for water.
So more resources from the north being used to prosper the south?

Like a modern day industrial revolution :lol:

The issue itself is in the article. They haven’t built enough reservoirs or cut out the leakage enough.

Plenty of profit going to Thames water mind you.
 
So more resources from the north being used to prosper the south?

Like a modern day industrial revolution :lol:

The issue itself is in the article. They haven’t built enough reservoirs or cut out the leakage enough.

Plenty of profit going to Thames water mind you.
I think we should have a national grid but would rather have people and resources move away from the southeast. Reservoirs are not the answer. They would create additional environmental stresses on the land and make matters worse.
 
No its because the UK government ploughs most of the infrastructure investment into the southeast, encouraging the population levels to rise out of control. Their water infrastructure is the oldest in the world and people use water like it's an infinite resource (it is but not down there). If an area can not sustain a population they should spread out a bit.


What do you think will happen in an area already stressed by water shortages when they divert water away from natural water courses?
Fair point about encouraging people to live in the south east. But those natural water courses are the same ones that flood when we have storms. Reservoirs would retain that water to be used at a later date when it’s dry.

I think we should have a national grid but would rather have people and resources move away from the southeast. Reservoirs are not the answer. They would create additional environmental stresses on the land and make matters worse.
Unlike gas and electricity, water is heavy and it is very expensive to move it around using pumps; pumps that use electricity and so create their own environmental issues.
 
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Fair point about encouraging people to live in the south east. But those natural water courses are the same ones that flood when we have storms. Reservoirs would retain that water to be used at a later date when it’s dry.


Unlike gas and electricity, water is heavy and it is very expensive to move it around using pumps; pumps that use electricity and so create their own environmental issues.
A lot of the water courses flood because of the hard surface run off due to urban development and a lack of vegetation. I get what you mean about the volume of the water to be moved and the problems it causes (my brother is in charge of a lot of Northumbria Water's pipe networks) but a lot of this can be done through gravity since most of the north is at a higher elevation than the south.
 
This is all because the EA has prevented the water companies in the south from building new reservoirs.

There is plenty of water except in dry summers so we need storage. Instead EA are advocating smart metering and desalination. It’s crazy.
Spain manage to grow massive amounts of fruits by storage of water on farms. The big growers have their own reservoirs to grow through their seasons. We need to do that too for domestic use.
We have just sunk a bore hole for our water at the land we own to give us a constant flow. 5000 ltr tank and piped all over. Expensive but no water meter when we are using 500 litres per day
 
A lot of the water courses flood because of the hard surface run off due to urban development and a lack of vegetation. I get what you mean about the volume of the water to be moved and the problems it causes (my brother is in charge of a lot of Northumbria Water's pipe networks) but a lot of this can be done through gravity since most of the north is at a higher elevation than the south.
You mean the water flows downhill from north to south ? It’s easier for it to flow West to east. Severn Trent have plans to provide water to Anglian and Welsh have plans to provide water to Thames.
 
You mean the water flows downhill from north to south ? It’s easier for it to flow West to east. Severn Trent have plans to provide water to Anglian and Welsh have plans to provide water to Thames.
In a manner of speaking yes, except the hills still go up and down. A grid wouldn't necessarily have to be a pipeline going directly from Kielder to London. We already have grid in the Northeast which believe it or not sends water from east to west into Cumbria and we have different pipelines for hard and soft water. Connecting this with Yorkshire water for example wouldn't be difficult. Its the fact that they are separate commercial entities causes the problem.
 

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