Voting Thread for August - Bygone times

[Amnorrageordie]

Amnorrageordie - I like this entry, it has a lovely quality to it, is it digital or film? I think it meets the theme pretty well, even though you still see these trains today. I would have preferred to have seen a slightly bluer sky to set off the steam. I am not sure whether you would have been able to, but a slightly more side on view of the train would have given more train and less of the clutter. Theme 1 Photo 1 (vote)

It is digital. I use paint shop pro, so in it went for some clarification to enhance the steam and colours. There is a feature in psp called time machine which converts your pictures to different time scales. I chose early colour. I had intended to capture the train entering the station, but it came in the 'wrong' way round.

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Next i thought i would shoot it leaving the station, but it was getting swapped for an early diesel as it had a water leak, so had to grab a shot as it was heading to the shed, and the bloke couldn't say if it would be back out next day.

 

[TiredEyes]

Loved luckyknickers photo very appropriate and gets my vote, although I have to say peachbums shot should be disqualified, taking a photo of a photo seems like cheating to me the original shooter took the shot, it's his/her photo, you have effectively, photocopied it !!

 

[Mercia Blackcat]

I voted for Luckyknickers because although it had a photo included it was placed in context by the props of the rattle and that particular scarf design. Then the photo placed the props in time. The props interacted well and the crop is good.

Quite nostalgic overall.

 

[peachy]

Loved luckyknickers photo very appropriate and gets my vote, although I have to say peachbums shot should be disqualified, taking a photo of a photo seems like cheating to me the original shooter took the shot, it's his/her photo, you have effectively, photocopied it !!

It wasn't photocopied, I actually had to work very hard to understand the different zoom modes on a borrowed camera to get the photo I wanted. I took about 80 shots, it was also cropped and colour altered. I have said it was a photograph. The theme of the month was bygone times. I found something that was bygone, my babyhood, and photographed that. It was obviously a photo from the past and my entry was a photograph from the past. I never tried to preftend I had set up the photo, or that the original shot was mine. So to say it should be disqualified is a bit harsh! . But I am outspoken about other photographs, so am happy to hear all opinions. Lucky knickers and janiep also took photos of photographs, should they be disqualified too?

You have voted for a photo of a photo anyway, even though I agree with you.

 

[AB22 Easy Tiger]

Loved luckyknickers photo very appropriate and gets my vote, although I have to say peachbums shot should be disqualified, taking a photo of a photo seems like cheating to me the original shooter took the shot, it's his/her photo, you have effectively, photocopied it !!

Nope.

It was a photograph, taken specifically for the competition, and therefore fulfilled the requirements 100%. Only the photographer knows the thought process behind whether the shot meets the theme or not.

Whether you like it, of course is a different matter, but that's why we have a vote.

I quite liked it actually, it obviously was a photo of a photo but it intrigued me from the moment it was entered.

I had intended to capture the train entering the station, but it came in the 'wrong' way round.
Next i thought i would shoot it leaving the station, but it was getting swapped for an early diesel as it had a water leak, so had to grab a shot as it was heading to the shed, and the bloke couldn't say if it would be back out next day.

That just about sums up why I love photographing trains. Everything is left to chance. Every time.

 

[peachy]

Nope.

It was a photograph, taken specifically for the competition, and therefore fulfilled the requirements 100%. Only the photographer knows the thought process behind whether the shot meets the theme or not.

Whether you like it, of course is a different matter, but that's why we have a vote.

I quite liked it actually, it obviously was a photo of a photo but it intrigued me from the moment it was entered.

Thanks AB22EasyTiger ! I don't really like being called a cheat! Rubbish photographer, fine; useless critic, fine. But cheat!

Loved luckyknickers photo very appropriate and gets my vote, although I have to say peachbums shot should be disqualified, taking a photo of a photo seems like cheating to me the original shooter took the shot, it's his/her photo, you have effectively, photocopied it !!

Wjat about if I had photographed my photograph album? Cheating?

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[TiredEyes]

Just my opinion but...

The others had photographs as part of the photo, not a direct copy of a photo by photographing it, that would be cheating imo. Imagine if David Bailey took a photo named "Bygone Times" and I photographed his image, then presented it as my entry, cheating surely, it's a copy, photography is about originality, uniqueness, moments never to be caught again not really using someone else's moment and then saying it's your moment because you captured it again, you could have entered the image itself if it weren't for the "must be taken during August" rule.

A little bit of photography clique has allowed it, so lets just agree to disagree.

 

[peachy]

Just my opinion but...

The others had photographs as part of the photo, not a direct copy of a photo by photographing it, that would be cheating imo. Imagine if David Bailey took a photo named "Bygone Times" and I photographed his image, then presented it as my entry, cheating surely, it's a copy, photography is about originality, uniqueness, moments never to be caught again not really using someone else's moment and then saying it's your moment because you captured it again, you could have entered the image itself if it weren't for the "must be taken during August" rule.

A little bit of photography clique has allowed it, so lets just agree to disagree.

Huh?

The bygone times is my childhood! It is obvious that the original photo wasn't taken by me, but I actually had to work really hard photographing that photograph. It was probably the most difficult photo I've taken for this competition with that particular camera.
I hate being called a cheat.

You've done it twice now. I am not a cheat.

 

[TiredEyes]

Huh?

The bygone times is my childhood! It is obvious that the original photo wasn't taken by me, but I actually had to work really hard photographing that photograph. It was probably the most difficult photo I've taken for this competition with that particular camera.
I hate being called a cheat.

You've done it twice now. I am not a cheat.

The work you have put in was post production.

Finding the image, getting the shot, imagination, all hard work/effort and great qualities you can appreciate in a photograph, playing about in photoshop, not such a great quality, more like a skill.

So here we go for the third time, I think your photo is cheating, both really and within the spirit of the competition, same as those from last month who used images from outside of the month of July.

But it's not my ball, it's AB22 Easy Tiger's ball and he says it's ok, so it's ok.

 

[hully2000]

Thanks for the comments on mine guys . . . . .

I've gone for janiep, kinda makes me think the same kind of things I was thinking when entering mine. And a very interesting shot capturing the whole perspective. It's a good juxtaposition of the commercialism of what the game has become today, versus the game of yesteryear. (Or you could say it was bygone times when sunderland ever won the FA cup lol).

Mentions also go out to madmackams effort (nice tones), notspavin (very atmospheric / intriguing), superkev (fits the theme well) and luckyknickers (well thought-out and presented)

 

[peachy]

The work you have put in was post production.

Finding the image, getting the shot, imagination, all hard work/effort and great qualities you can appreciate in a photograph, playing about in photoshop, not such a great quality, more like a skill.

So here we go for the third time, I think your photo is cheating, both really and within the spirit of the competition, same as those from last month who used images from outside of the month of July.

But it's not my ball, it's AB22 Easy Tiger's ball and he says it's ok, so it's ok.

I meant using a zoom lens. My camera that I am using for the competition, has a manual mode and an automatic mode and it seems to zoom differently depending on how I am using the camera. Sometimes it seems to lock and go blurry, sometimes it works well. This isn't a fault with the camera, it is me not understanding the camera. (I'll get there.) I took a lot of photos, some were of several photos in an album (see little photo elsewhere in this thread), but as the photos were so small, that idea didn't work as you couldn't really see the photos. I then had the idea of just photographing one photo. I eventually got a shot that I was quite pleased with ie it included both the man on the left and the woman on the right. The taking of the picture I wanted took about three hours all told. The post production took about two minutes! I don't have photoshop, and if I was good at post production I would have removed the shoe laying on the shingle! I went into basic picnik, cropped the bottom off the photograph, as there was a shadow I didn't like there, I warmed it slightly from black and white to vaguely gold, and put a very thin frame round it.

Cheating is when you try to deceive someone. I wasn't trying to deceive anybody. It was obvious it wasn't my photograph. So that isn't cheating.
My idea for bygone times was my childhood (now gone) and I thought a picture of me as a baby met that.

I really hate being called a cheat when I really wasn't. It isn't in my make-up. To call my entry cheating "really" is bad enough, but I guess you are entitled to your opinion. I can almost agree that photoshopping any photo is sort of cheating, because what is presented isn't the original photo but a photoshopped picture, which is a different to skill to the art of photography. But to say I cheated in the spirit of the competition is a complete falsehood and an outright lie!

I am debating walking away from the whole thing because of that slur against my character. But as you are just a random name on a message board with whom I have no connection in any shape or form I have decided to ignore you.

If anyone else thinks I cheated as in trying to deceive you, please let me know.

If you think I am stupid for biting, then yes maybe. But no-one calls me a cheat without me fighting back.

Oh, and I'm not in any clique either. (My voting pattern and comments will show that I think).

 

[not spavin]

Might I suggest that people are taking this all a bit seriously?

It's meant to be fun competition where we can all learn a bit and maybe get some encouragement.

If an entry transgresses the rules then it'll be removed. If you're still not satisfied then don't vote for it. Peachbum herself (iirc) has not voted for shots in the past as they're too photoshopped or whatever (I might be mistaken there mind). Personally, PB's shot didn't have enough original content for me, while janiep's used the photo-of-a-photo thing to create an original effect. Accordingly, I voted for janiep and didn't vote for PB.

It's not really worth getting upset about, is it?

 

[lucky knickers]

Lucky knickers - A very good entry! Is that positive enough. See also my comment on theme in Janiep above. But having said that, your title and the inclusion of the old rattle means it meets the theme for me. What does the writing say? I wouldn't have minded entering your picture myself. Photo 1, theme 1. (vote)

thanks peachy, the writing is jimmy montgomery's autograph :-D
for what it's worth i liked the mystery surrounding your picture, it intrigued me and made me want to know more about it. and the fact that now i do, and it is you and your mam then i think it's a great idea and brings a personal touch

Loved luckyknickers photo very appropriate and gets my vote

I voted for Luckyknickers because although it had a photo included it was placed in context by the props of the rattle and that particular scarf design. Then the photo placed the props in time. The props interacted well and the crop is good.

Quite nostalgic overall.

thank you both :-D

i voted for clyde, the picture just grabs me and the gentleman in the picture is certainly perfect for the theme

 

[Mercia Blackcat]

thanks peachy, the writing is jimmy montgomery's autograph :-D
for what it's worth i liked the mystery surrounding your picture, it intrigued me and made me want to know more about it. and the fact that now i do, and it is you and your mam then i think it's a great idea and brings a personal touch






thank you both :-D

i voted for clyde, the picture just grabs me and the gentleman in the picture is certainly perfect for the theme

It's a well taken photograph in it's own right but also the layout is effective and thought through so it's also a good piece of design work imo.

I'm not sure about the argument against photoshopped images because all Photoshop allows you to do is mainly the post processing that has been done since photography first started anyway but was beyond the amatuer unless they got into printing or other techniques.

Now it can be done on a PC by anyone but it's always been done.

The same with so called staged shots.

So what? Photography is not just about candid shots which is a genre in its own rights.

Lots of images are set up or designed but that's photography in action, in design, just as valid as any other style imo.

 

[Deleted member 5265]

The work you have put in was post production.

Finding the image, getting the shot, imagination, all hard work/effort and great qualities you can appreciate in a photograph, playing about in photoshop, not such a great quality, more like a skill.

So here we go for the third time, I think your photo is cheating, both really and within the spirit of the competition, same as those from last month who used images from outside of the month of July.

But it's not my ball, it's AB22 Easy Tiger's ball and he says it's ok, so it's ok.

For what it's worth, I agree with AB22 and I'm not in any clique and indeed have tried to be welcoming of and encouraging to people who have just contributed for the first time: e.g. see my posts to Luckyknickers welcoming her on board, and may I add how fab that she may go on to win it with her first effort, or indeed Hully with what I think is his first effort (sorry if I'm factuallly wrong, can't be bothered to go back over every month to see if he's entered before).

PB is not a cheat, that's not fair. Every month she puts in original, thought-out shots that she's worked hard on. No, I didn't think this month's was up to scratch but she's no cheat.

 

[not spavin]

I've made a voting fuck-up.

Meant to vote for Hully and janiep, but I've actually voted for madmackem and janiep instead.

Happy to have a vote registered for madmackem too, really liked his shot as i mentioned, but would we be able to add an extra vote to Hully in the event of a tie?

Soz Hully.

 

[Mercia Blackcat]

I've made a voting fuck-up.

Meant to vote for Hully and janiep, but I've actually voted for madmackem and janiep instead.

Happy to have a vote registered for madmackem too, really liked his shot as i mentioned, but would we be able to add an extra vote to Hully in the event of a tie?

Soz Hully.

Well we've seen changing entries but changing votes surely not

Where would it end?

 

[not spavin]

Well we've seen changing entries but changing votes surely not

Where would it end?

tbf it's more a case that I'm a moron than being indecisive.

See here.

Still, in the spirit of this thread you could call me a liar, then we could have a massive row if you like?

 

[MaDMaCKeM]

heheh thanks for the vote! I dont mind losing one to hully tho.

 

[Mercia Blackcat]

tbf it's more a case that I'm a moron than being indecisive.

See here.

I wouldn't even call you a moron.

It has happened before though. I did it once.

But once that X is posted......

It just seemed funny after all the controversies regarding changing entry (Clyde was not allowed to last month), entering something taken outside the month, arguments over photographing photographs.....that someone comes along and says..."Can I change my vote"

Just made me laugh.