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Vietnam War prog on BBC4 the neet

Discussion in 'SMB' started by EDGE, Sep 25, 2017.

  1. riffraff

    riffraff Striker

    Ive had "A Bright And Shining Lie" on my "to be read" shelf for about 20yrs now! This may save me the bother......or illuminate it when i do.
     
  2. cluffy

    cluffy Striker

    This is great. Fascinating stuff.
     
  3. RTRsBM

    RTRsBM Striker

  4. Alan BStard

    Alan BStard Striker

    Its a good book, you certainly get your moneys worth from it.
     
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  5. Doesn’t romanticize HCM does it? The guy sent hundreds of thousands to certain death, but tends to get glossed over in many books and documentaries.
     
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  6. Watched number two last night on iPlayer. Really interesting and very well put together. Three and four were on last night so will watch them this week.
     
  7. nelford_safc

    nelford_safc Striker

    episode 3 is now on iPlayer bitches.
     
  8. Big Duke Six

    Big Duke Six Winger

    Who's narrating? I recognise the voice but cant place him.
     
  9. Martin F

    Martin F Winger

  10. Big Duke Six

    Big Duke Six Winger

  11. jackynutmeg

    jackynutmeg Winger

    All episodes on showbox/cartoon hd
     
  12. nelford_safc

    nelford_safc Striker

    Anywhere they are available in good quality? Just watched episode 4 there and had a lump in my throat for the family of the 19 year old KIA. :(
     
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  13. Just watched it too.

    Amazing that we're four episodes in and when I look back I still can't really understand WHY the fuck the US is in Vietnam, aside from ego, and the fact that no one wanted to be the person who said "we probably shouldn't be doing this Mr President". Worries me that this would be so so easy to happen today with Trump's sycophants.

    Interesting points about Russia interfering with protests, and the state planting violence in anti-war demos, all interesting parallels.
     
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  14. offshore

    offshore Central Defender

    The American government wanted to rid the world of communism it's that simple. Didn't work tho did it? By the 90s communism was almost dead. That's why it's a war they don't like talking about the propaganda they used to get young lads to fight was shocking
     
  15. Arkle

    Arkle Striker Contributor

    It's basically cold war stuff and posturing. Lots of trying to judge how hard they could go without getting China or the Soviet Union involved whilst kids, and that's basically who they were, were being killed on the American side and, on the other side, a mix of so many groups that it starts to get daft.

    As you say, the US government tried to influence the anti-war movement by getting agents in there.

    Basically, all because of differing ideologies on the back of colonialism.
     
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  16. nelford_safc

    nelford_safc Striker

    Think I need to get a book or two on the whole thing. It’s really taking my interest at the minute.
     
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  17. EDGE

    EDGE Winger

    Me too,also considering it was half a century ago and his mother still acutely feels his loss is a sobering thought.Poor lass.
     
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  18. rickopooly

    rickopooly Winger

    Westmoreland seems to have been North Vietnam’s best asset.
     
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  19. Did anyone get their Pyongyang shot off ?
     
  20. Lonz

    Lonz Striker

    I thought it was Tom Hanks initially.
     
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