Vaux - it'll never happen!

[Paddy O'Dors]

tbf they could easily raise the river 100 yards to the same level as high st west

Global warming, think ahead. I like it.

 

[luvulongtime]

Global warming, think ahead. I like it.

Newcastle has a thriving riverside simply because the city is on the same level as the river. our's isn't people don't seem to grasp this

 

[Paddy O'Dors]

Newcastle has a thriving riverside simply because the city is on the same level as the river. our's isn't people don't seem to grasp this

There bank slopes up a bit gentler.

 

[CornedBeefIsland]

Newcastle has a thriving riverside simply because the city is on the same level as the river. our's isn't people don't seem to grasp this

Also because they didn't have a couple of hundred years of heavy industry perched on top of it.

 

[Jack Wolforskin]

Is this like Aliens on the Moon?

 

[Reptilia]

Newcastle has a thriving riverside simply because the city is on the same level as the river. our's isn't people don't seem to grasp this

It isn't really like you've got to walk down a git wass bank to get to the quayside.

 

[the walrus]

I'm hearing they're building bungalows there now on the land not used, well done Sunderland council

 

[Father Jack Hackett]

Newcastle has a thriving riverside simply because the city is on the same level as the river. our's isn't people don't seem to grasp this

amd because rich merchants built grand old streets leading from it, as vanity projects which still lend themselves to good establishments

 

[ANonnyMoose]

The Vaux site is a perfect example of how Sunderland Council are the worst. f***ing disgraceful shower of shite.

 

[Wilfy]

The Vaux site is a perfect example of how Sunderland Council are the worst. f***ing disgraceful shower of shite.

What's wrong with it?

 

[ANonnyMoose]

What's wrong with it?

What? How can you even ask that question? Its been empty for nearly TWENTY f***ing YEARS.

 

[Wilfy]

What? How can you even ask that question? Its been empty for nearly TWENTY f***ing YEARS.

Ah, this old chestnut? The council haven't owned it for 20 years. Or are you one of these people who doesn't like facts to get in the way of a good rant?

 

[ANonnyMoose]

Ah, this old chestnut? The council haven't owned it for 20 years. Or are you one of these people who doesn't like facts to get in the way of a good rant?

Sunderland council are shit. Have been for decades. Who's job is it to promote the city and get investment/infrastructure built? Who could have used a compulsory purchase order to take over the site, which is of such importance, in the first place?

A compulsory purchase order (CPO) is a legal function in the United Kingdom and Ireland that allows certain bodies which need to obtain land or property to do so without the consent of the owner. It may be enforced if a proposed development is considered one for public betterment; for example, when building motorways where a land owner does not want to sell. Similarly, if town councils wish to develop a town centre, they may issue compulsory purchase orders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_purchase_order

Almost any other place in the country they would have been voted out years ago.

Oh wait, whats this? Who owns the site?

The striking 60,000sq ft office building that will occupy the first plot on the site, purchased by Sunderland City Council in 2011

http://siglion.co.uk/2017/05/15/steelwork-in-place-at-former-brewery-site-in-sunderland/

So even then they have owned the site for SIX YEARS and there was nothing stopping them buying earlier than that.

Sunderland council are an embarrassment.

What was that you said about facts?

 

[Banks]

200 yards from the riverside?

If they were ambitious enough they could have deptford and the town linked. Youd obviously have to make massive changes.

 

[Wilfy]

Sunderland council are shit. Have been for decades. Who's job is it to promote the city and get investment/infrastructure built? Who could have used a compulsory purchase order to take over the site, which is of such importance, in the first place?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_purchase_order

Almost any other place in the country they would have been voted out years ago.

Oh wait, whats this? Who owns the site?

http://siglion.co.uk/2017/05/15/steelwork-in-place-at-former-brewery-site-in-sunderland/

So even then they have owned the site for SIX YEARS and there was nothing stopping them buying earlier than that.

Sunderland council are an embarrassment.

What was that you said about facts?

They finally got the right to buy the land in the middle of a massive recession when council budgets were being slashed left, right and centre. They had to do some clean up work to make it fit to build on. There was something stopping them buying the land earlier, it's called Tesco. You try and buy some land from Tesco and see how long it will take you. Do nowt and people will complain, build something and people will complain. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

[DJP]

Sunderland city centre has also lost around 400 tax office jobs at the main office opposite The Derry, an office block that the council bought and then put up for sale. Those tax office workers were vital to the lunchtime and early evening economy in the city. Some of the jobs were relocated to a call centre office off Wessington Way. Wouldn't it have been more beneficial to the shops, pubs and restaurants in the city centre to keep the jobs there?

(I haven't read this full thread so apologies if this has already been mentioned.)

 

[ned_werby]

They finally got the right to buy the land in the middle of a massive recession when council budgets were being slashed left, right and centre. They had to do some clean up work to make it fit to build on. There was something stopping them buying the land earlier, it's called Tesco. You try and buy some land from Tesco and see how long it will take you. Do nowt and people will complain, build something and people will complain. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

gan on wilfy, f***ing knack him.

 

[Wilfy]

Sunderland city centre has also lost around 400 tax office jobs at the main office opposite The Derry, an office block that the council bought and then put up for sale. Those tax office workers were vital to the lunchtime and early evening economy in the city. Some of the jobs were relocated to a call centre office off Wessington Way. Wouldn't it have been more beneficial to the shops, pubs and restaurants in the city centre to keep the jobs there?

(I haven't read this full thread so apologies if this has already been mentioned.)

You need to take that up with the Tory government marra.

 

[Sideshow Bob2]

Do people blame their largely-powerless (and skint) councils for the actions of central governments and private businesses in the rest of the country or is it just a Sunderland obsession?

 

[back_to_winning_ways]

Sunderland city centre has also lost around 400 tax office jobs at the main office opposite The Derry, an office block that the council bought and then put up for sale. Those tax office workers were vital to the lunchtime and early evening economy in the city. Some of the jobs were relocated to a call centre office off Wessington Way. Wouldn't it have been more beneficial to the shops, pubs and restaurants in the city centre to keep the jobs there?

(I haven't read this full thread so apologies if this has already been mentioned.)

This has nothing to do with the Council. It is a Government initiative to relocate smaller HMRC offices to regional centres. The regional centre for the North East is at Benton Park View (Longbenton) and smaller offices from as far away as Middlesbrough and Stockton up to Sunderland and Washington will closing and the jobs relocating there.