Universal credit: U-turn on two-child cap on benefit

Discussion in 'SMB' started by steve30000, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. heroesof73

    heroesof73 Striker

    their Child benefits will stop eventually though.
    Based on the thread earlier this week be less kids going to school needing breakfasts from 5 or 6 years anarl now perhaps
     
  2. Skandhaless

    Skandhaless Striker

    Can't do that poor rachman with his 200 houses will be on the bones. Tories would hate that. I think the preserve the tenancy angle is convenient for the tories to make sure their mates get first dibs and also to further reduce the choice of benefit claimants, to dehumanise further.
     
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  3. yorkyexile

    yorkyexile Striker

    Thats the private vs social argument though. But tbh my view is roof over your head is no1 priority and private shouldnt exist payed for the state sector. If you want to work and pay a private landlord thats your choice, and your gamble in my experience, We should as a country hold enough housing stock so we should as taxpayers never ever have to fund a private landlords business
     
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  4. AndrewP

    AndrewP Striker

    UC with two kids.
     
  5. Our jobless are in the top 15%() richest people on earth.
    They surely must be bottom on pride.
     
  6. Charmless Man

    Charmless Man Striker

    Why? Loads of people seems to be proud of being British for no apparent reason other than having been born here.
     
  7. Skandhaless

    Skandhaless Striker

    Amen brother.
     
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  8. stapler

    stapler Full Back

    Yes, it's far better that these people get evicted. And then find themselves unable to get any help from the local authority because being evicted non-payment is treated as intentional homelessness.

    What a brilliant idea.
     
  9. Proud of what?
    Our previous success with imperialism?
    Or our current devotion to socialism and equality?
    I can genuinely say I’m far from proud of being British.
    We’ve decided to pay the workless to have more children? :lol:
    We have to realise that this generation will be the current generation soon.
     
  10. Skandhaless

    Skandhaless Striker

    Nah it's far better that some scummer makes a packet out of them and has zero obligation for maintain social housing security of tenure . The primacy of capital in this country is laughable. You subscribe to the feckless poor theory by the looks, people are quite capable of paying rent and weighing the consequences of not doing. Maybe we should drop a few quid behind the till at Asda for them to purchase a subsistence calorie count based on body weight and buy them a bus pass with tickets to the job centre ?
     
  11. Charmless Man

    Charmless Man Striker

    Mainly this.

    Completely ignoring that western economic dominance is actually a bit of a flash in the pan, historically.
     
  12. Valid point.
    Mass immigration will utterly destroy western power/influence soon anyway.
     
  13. stapler

    stapler Full Back

    I can't discern your point amidst the crazy rant. Sorry.

    Two facts for you: (1) rent arrears are a major cause of homelessness in this country; (2) rent arrears will get a tenant evicted whether the landlord is a cruel profiteer, a right-on private landlord, a housing association or a local authority.
     
  14. Skandhaless

    Skandhaless Striker

    And if you're not ranting about the fact that one citizen without any roof is so inpoverished that they have to chose between rent and food and that choice is taken away so that another citizen that owns 200 houses can get his bit first from the others meager sustainance, and then sees fit to complain about his precarious position on national news, you have indeed lost all morality.
    It's the whole point, we need fair benefits and affordable social housing Not state fed privateer landlords with surity of income.
     
  15. stapler

    stapler Full Back

    1. Yes, it's terrible if people have to choose between rent and food.
    2. Yes, social hosing in the country needs a major overhaul.
    3. If the whole of somebody's rent is covered by housing benefit, it does not really matter who is their landlord. If that person uses their housing benefit for other things, they will get evicted and they will be unable to get any help from the local authority because they will be deemed intentionally homeless.
    4. The image you keep repeating - the 200 house owner bleating on the news - is a sliver of a fraction of the private housing market.
    5. A world where "morality" means "ranting" is a world where Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln were immoral.
     
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  16. Would claim UC but only get paid for 2 of her kids imo.
     
  17. Agree with the 2 child limit tbh, it would've gone some way to deter the baby making machines.
     
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  18. AndrewP

    AndrewP Striker

    Agree with it too. Don't agree with it being retrospective though so this is a welcome change.
     
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  19. Yeah definitely fairer that way in would have been unfair to penalise people before the date it changed
     

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