UFO's

[High Entropy]

I posted this footage once and the big brains on here debunked it because “all the technology we have and that’s the best footage they can come up with” or whatever such nonsense, completely disregarding it’s a fighter jet and that camera is not there to record 4K quality footage for their pleasure. Its more so a ridiculously advanced radar designed to spot objects miles away, through clouds and in the dark with the purpose of potentially firing upon.

This is proof, released by the US and reported on by the BBC and people still won’t have it.

The footage is real and zoomed into a small field of vision but their interpretation of what they see is wrong imo. They anchored themselves on the belief that its a UAP, then everything after that is confirmation bias.

They claim it's rotating. but there's three "bumps" of the

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, so either it's the camera that has fooled them or the "UAP" has a tight beam lock on the gimbal and bumps the camera milliseconds before it does a rotation and it does this three times.
Which version of that is more likely in your opinion ?

I believe this video is a training video for USAF cadets to show what you should NOT do when observing a UAP phenomena.

 

[Grimes]

I’m trying to catch up on all this. Been decades since I read anything on the subject. There’s a documentary on Varginha isn’t there!? I’m on it..

Yes mate, the filmmaker is a bit annoying but it’s worth a watch purely for the family testimonies.

The footage is real and zoomed into a small field of vision but their interpretation of what they see is wrong imo. They anchored themselves on the belief that its a UAP, then everything after that is confirmation bias.

They claim it's rotating. but there's three "bumps" of the

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, so either it's the camera that has fooled them or the "UAP" has a tight beam lock on the gimbal and bumps the camera milliseconds before it does a rotation and it does this three times.
Which version of that is more likely in your opinion ?

I believe this video is a training video for USAF cadets to show what you should NOT do when observing a UAP phenomena.

So what else is it pulling those types of manoeuvres? I know you’re saying we’re letting the pilots reputation fool us but these people use this system every day, they’re not being fooled here.

 

[MunkyHeed]

I’m trying to catch up on all this. Been decades since I read anything on the subject. There’s a documentary on Varginha isn’t there!? I’m on it..

Aye... This is the trailer.

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[High Entropy]

So what else is it pulling those types of manoeuvres

What manoeuvres?

but these people use this system every day, they’re not being fooled here.

Have you never watched Air Crash Investigation?

Experienced pilots make errors, it even has a name that escapes me at the moment but it might be a simple as "cockpit confusion" the NTSB has hundreds of examples of it.

 

[Lefty Frizzell]

In between all you children fighting I really enjoyed this, sounds right out of a film!

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I was just coming to post this. The family look totally normal - only thing I don’t get is in this day and age (especially with two teenage lads in the house) how nobody took a video or photo (or maybe they haven’t released it yet?)

 

[Ember]

I was just coming to post this. The family look totally normal - only thing I don’t get is in this day and age (especially with two teenage lads in the house) how nobody took a video or photo (or maybe they haven’t released it yet?)

Of course somebody would release a good quality photo or video, if one existed. Because the person with a genuine high quality photo or video to sell would make an absolute fortune from it.

The fact that no good quality, irrefutable photos of UFOs, aliens, ghosts, Bigfoot or the Tooth Fairy exist tells you all you need to know about these or similar subjects.

Its a belief thing. As religion disappears in the West people turn to all sorts of other belief systems to give some meaning to their lives imo.

 

[Lefty Frizzell]

Of course somebody would release a good quality photo or video, if one existed. Because the person with a genuine high quality photo or video to sell would make an absolute fortune from it.

The fact that no good quality, irrefutable photos of UFOs, aliens, ghosts, Bigfoot or the Tooth Fairy exist tells you all you need to know about these or similar subjects.

Its a belief thing. As religion disappears in the West people turn to all sorts of other belief systems to give some meaning to their lives imo.

I’d argue there are several decent videos of unidentified objects flying about these days. As for the other things you list - completely agree.

 

[MunkyHeed]

Its a belief thing. As religion disappears in the West people turn to all sorts of other belief systems to give some meaning to their lives imo.

It’d be interesting to see the % split of those ppl who believe in both, one, the other or neither mind.

 

[Lefty Frizzell]

It’d be interesting to see the % split of those ppl who believe in both, one, the other or neither mind.

Surely properly religious people couldn’t believe in them. The same way as they done believe dinosaurs existed.

 

[Ember]

I’d argue there are several decent videos of unidentified objects flying about these days. As for the other things you list - completely agree.

I'll bite. Please post a link to a video which shows a UFO in decently high resolution, not a video of a light or something in shadow moving miles away in a night sky.

 

[Lefty Frizzell]

I'll bite. Please post a link to a video which shows a UFO in decently high resolution, not a video of a light or something in shadow moving miles away in a night sky.

There’s nowt properly crystal clear. Most are at night and it’s the lights you see granted. I posted one on this thread a few weeks back taken from a plane, post 260.

 

[MunkyHeed]

Surely properly religious people couldn’t believe in them. The same way as they done believe dinosaurs existed.

Probably not. It could be a struggle for some caught in the middle mind. Do they reconcile their views by believing God is an alien?!

 

[Lefty Frizzell]

Probably not. It could be a struggle for some caught in the middle mind. Do they reconcile their views by believing God is an alien?!

Dunno. If they saw something flying about surely it would just be an act of god? If they saw an alien in their back garden it would be the devil?

 

[Grimes]

What manoeuvres?



Have you never watched Air Crash Investigation?

Experienced pilots make errors, it even has a name that escapes me at the moment but it might be a simple as "cockpit confusion" the NTSB has hundreds of examples of it.

They might make errors of course but we’re looking at footage here, which other pilots and specialists have been able to look at after the event too. There’s no way the US are going to release something without being sure what it is and being able to control the narrative on it, the reason this has been kept secret for so long is an arms race with Russia and China. The other reason being the these countries are not wanting to admit there’s something out there they don’t control. I think they’ve mastered the tech now from reverse engineering and are now slowly drip feeding us. I don’t think we will ever get the full story like but just something to explain the jump in technology we will see in the coming years.

 

[High Entropy]

They might make errors of course but we’re looking at footage here, which other pilots and specialists have been able to look at after the event too. There’s no way the US are going to release something without being sure what it is and being able to control the narrative on it, the reason this has been kept secret for so long is an arms race with Russia and China. The other reason being the these countries are not wanting to admit there’s something out there they don’t control. I think they’ve mastered the tech now from reverse engineering and are now slowly drip feeding us. I don’t think we will ever get the full story like but just something to explain the jump in technology we will see in the coming years.

I asked what manoeuvres because there are no manoeuvres, they believe it's rotating and it's been shown that it's the gimbal rotating, not the UAP and they made this error.

You're right about the US military not releasing something they don't know about, they know exactly what this is, they've had their own experts look into a possible alien encounter and realised its cockpit confusion/error and nothing to do with aliens.

the reason this has been kept secret for so long is an arms race with Russia and China. The other reason being the these countries are not wanting to admit there’s something out there they don’t control. I think they’ve mastered the tech now from reverse engineering and are now slowly drip feeding us

How do you know this?
This just speculation on your behalf isn't it ?

 

[MunkyHeed]

I don’t think we will ever get the full story like but just something to explain the jump in technology we will see in the coming years.

Or have seen in the past. Pinch of salt time, but there are stories out there about how Teflon, certain medicines, Kevlar… even Velcro were invented thanks to crash retrieval!

 

[safc9450]

UFO near Guernsey (UK) Pilot interview .On Richard and Judy show ,25th June 2007 (UK) Youtube

 

[Grimes]

I asked what manoeuvres because there are no manoeuvres, they believe it's rotating and it's been shown that it's the gimbal rotating, not the UAP and they made this error.

You're right about the US military not releasing something they don't know about, they know exactly what this is, they've had their own experts look into a possible alien encounter and realised its cockpit confusion/error and nothing to do with aliens.




How do you know this?
This just speculation on your behalf isn't it ?

Plenty videos of the manoeuvres I didn’t see that point sorry you’d quoted me twice and I thought the first quote was another poster so didn’t read it

They know what it is it’s a craft. Last point is speculation yes but the chances of it being true are high.

Or have seen in the past. Pinch of salt time, but there are stories out there about how Teflon, certain medicines, Kevlar… even Velcro were invented thanks to crash retrieval!

The tech Bob lazar mention was to harness gravity or even create its own gravity. I’d agree with your point on previous advancements. We 100% know about current advancements due to element 115.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

According to David Fravor there is far better and clearer footage of the Nimitz incident that hasn't been releaed yet. He got far closer to the UAP than the released footage shows, it was mimicking his movements and when he tried to cut it off it accelerated so quickly that it "disappeared" and re-appeared second later on radar 60 miles away.

I believe Fravor is giving an honest account of what he saw but this latest bloke screams "operative" rather than whistle-blower to me. You have to wonder what the aim is if this is a government psy-op though.

 

[MunkyHeed]

The tech Bob lazar mention was to harness gravity or even create its own gravity. I’d agree with your point on previous advancements. We 100% know about current advancements due to element 115.

Well, BL’s element 115 story is controversial. It just means ‘the element with 115 protons in its nucleus’. It was always gonna be discovered at some point (now called Moscovium) and is ridiculously unstable unlike the E115 BL describes (altho his argument is that his was a different isotope of E115 to the one discovered by 'humans' in a lab).