Truth About Global Warming

The world would be better without any humans, there is something about us as a species that makes us want to destroy everything, we will die out and natural selection will continue.
We will have left a massive imprint on the history of the earth by the time we go.
The only thing we are is the most successful species to have existed on the planet so far.
aye it would thrive marra and repair itself.
 

Nukehasslefan

Goalkeeper
The world would be better without any humans, there is something about us as a species that makes us want to destroy everything, we will die out and natural selection will continue.
We will have left a massive imprint on the history of the earth by the time we go.
The only thing we are is the most successful species to have existed on the planet so far.
If you take an aerial view of any land mass you'll see that humans are merely a dot on it.
And with all due respect, what do you mean by us being the most successful species?
 

Karl

Goalkeeper
Ignorant arse here but does anyone have recommendations for not-too-technical yet fairly comprehensive analysis and discussion of the data which forms the backdrop to current debates about CC?
 
I watched a programme in the states a while back about this millionaire bloke and his wife who went to Antarctic (can't remember exactly where but just saying Antarctic) and they done an experiment where they drilled a whole through the Ice and took sample's and they found evidence of trees been growing in the Antarctic.
Google Pangea, mate.
Quick cut'n'paste from wiki:

Gondwana breakup (160–23 Ma)
The cooling of Antarctica occurred stepwise, as the continental spread changed the oceanic currents from longitudinal equator-to-pole temperature-equalising currents to latitudinal currents that preserved and accentuated latitude temperature differences.

Africa separated from Antarctica in the Jurassic, around 160 Ma, followed by the Indian subcontinent in the early Cretaceous (about 125 Ma). By the end of the Cretaceous, about 66 Ma, Antarctica (then connected to Australia) still had a subtropical climate and flora, complete with a marsupial fauna.[64] In the Eocene epoch, about 40 Ma Australia-New Guinea separated from Antarctica, so that latitudinal currents could isolate Antarctica from Australia, and the first ice began to appear. During the Eocene–Oligocene extinction event about 34 million years ago, CO2 levels have been found to be about 760 ppm[65] and had been decreasing from earlier levels in the thousands of ppm.

Around 23 Ma, the Drake Passage opened between Antarctica and South America, resulting in the Antarctic Circumpolar Current that completely isolated the continent. Models of the changes suggest that declining CO2 levels became more important.[66] The ice began to spread, replacing the forests that then covered the continent.

Neogene Period (23–0.05 Ma)
Since about 15 Ma, the continent has been mostly covered with ice.[67]
Don’t bother, it’s all here.
I'm no scientist but what I don't understand is that how come during the 70s and 80s when everyone had a coal fire and everyone had cars that were worse for emmisons than we have now, why was the temperature not higher then?

Those times were much worse for the environment than now but the planet was cooler then.
In 1970 the global population was HALF what it is today.

Add: India and China weren’t industrialised to the extent they are now.
 
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ouro

Striker
That's true of a lot of things to be fair. I reckon people who agree on Brexit are more likely to agree on other things like climate change, Trump, "muslim" grooming gangs etc.

On here you can often predict what certain posters position will be on a subject before you've even read their post.
*sigh* here we go again... if you point out the correlation between higher education and voting remain that will give me a line, then I will be waiting for 'Little Englander', 'Xenophobic', & 'racists' for a full house.

The most worrying if not terrifying thing about your lot is your absolute CERTAINTY that not only are you right and that anyone that dare disagree is wrong, but that anyone that doesn't agree with you is therefore a racist moron. It's like a religion - like climate change funnily enough.
 
*sigh* here we go again... if you point out the correlation between higher education and voting remain that will give me a line, then I will be waiting for 'Little Englander', 'Xenophobic', & 'racists' for a full house.

The most worrying if not terrifying thing about your lot is your absolute CERTAINTY that not only are you right and that anyone that dare disagree is wrong, but that anyone that doesn't agree with you is therefore a racist moron. It's like a religion - like climate change funnily enough.
Sorry to dissapoint you but I voted Leave, so I'm not trying to talk down to you.

I was simply saying that people are split on most of those (and other) topics and usually you find the same people on either side. I think it's caused by social media personally.
 

ouro

Striker
Sorry to dissapoint you but I voted Leave, so I'm not trying to talk down to you.

I was simply saying that people are split on most of those (and other) topics and usually you find the same people on either side. I think it's caused by social media personally.
Sorry mate. I disagree though: Trump is plainly a not very bright man going through the early stages of dementia (I've seen it) and anyone that thinks he is doing a good job is deluded. Other than that, fair enough.
 

ElGuapo

Central Defender

dixonsafc

Striker
So have many of his colleagues, almost all of whom disagree with him. He's also - by his own admission and otherwise - received hundreds of thousands of pounds from fossil fuel companies...
And that’s where his argument goes out of the window!

Funny how the ‘scientists’ who deny climate change are all on the take from fossil fuel/big oil companies
 

fyl2u

Striker
I watched a programme in the states a while back about this millionaire bloke and his wife who went to Antarctic (can't remember exactly where but just saying Antarctic) and they done an experiment where they drilled a whole through the Ice and took sample's and they found evidence of trees been growing in the Antarctic.
Not exactly news. Antarctica used to be connected to the rest of the world in prehistoric times when there was just one huge supercontinent.
Quick cut'n'paste from wiki:

Gondwana breakup (160–23 Ma)
The cooling of Antarctica occurred stepwise, as the continental spread changed the oceanic currents from longitudinal equator-to-pole temperature-equalising currents to latitudinal currents that preserved and accentuated latitude temperature differences.

Africa separated from Antarctica in the Jurassic, around 160 Ma, followed by the Indian subcontinent in the early Cretaceous (about 125 Ma). By the end of the Cretaceous, about 66 Ma, Antarctica (then connected to Australia) still had a subtropical climate and flora, complete with a marsupial fauna.[64] In the Eocene epoch, about 40 Ma Australia-New Guinea separated from Antarctica, so that latitudinal currents could isolate Antarctica from Australia, and the first ice began to appear. During the Eocene–Oligocene extinction event about 34 million years ago, CO2 levels have been found to be about 760 ppm[65] and had been decreasing from earlier levels in the thousands of ppm.

Around 23 Ma, the Drake Passage opened between Antarctica and South America, resulting in the Antarctic Circumpolar Current that completely isolated the continent. Models of the changes suggest that declining CO2 levels became more important.[66] The ice began to spread, replacing the forests that then covered the continent.

Neogene Period (23–0.05 Ma)
Since about 15 Ma, the continent has been mostly covered with ice.[67]
Ah there we go.
We wouldn't to here if it wasn't for global warming..
We wouldn't be here if it wasn't for a massive asteroid hitting the Earth but I wouldn't recommend it as a preferred course of action going forward.
I don't think Hitler was in Dads Army mind
He was in the theme song, man.
The world would be better without any humans, there is something about us as a species that makes us want to destroy everything, we will die out and natural selection will continue.
We will have left a massive imprint on the history of the earth by the time we go.
The only thing we are is the most successful species to have existed on the planet so far.
Only as far as technology is concerned. Plenty of species throughout history could be argued to be be more successful than us. It just depends on your criteria for "successful". Ask a cockroach which species on earth is the most successful and they'd probably say cockroaches. Ask a rat and it'd probably say rats. Ask a great white shark and it would probably say great white sharks.

Humans have only been around for a few hundred thousand years. There were dinosaur species that were around for tens of millions of years.
 
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