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Exactly to expectations, O’Neill brought his team of thugs to St James’ Park and they set out to do what the Irishman’s teams do – foul and spoil. Every player behind the ball! For Sunderland 2012 read Leicester 1996. For Muzzy Izzett read Lee Cattermole. That is where Ellis Short’s tens of millions of pounds of investment has brought them. A team of artless cloggers! Should we be surprised? Not really, this is the club whose followers idolise Kevin Ball. We are the supporters who idolise Peter Beardsley. No more need be said.
I was absolutely staggered by Dean’s decision not to give Cattermole a straight red card for a tackle on Chieck Tiote in the opening minute. No-one will tell me this no-mark, piece of trash hadn’t been instructed all week to make a tackle like that and it comes as little consolation that the yob should be sent off for abusing the referee at the final whistle even if it does mean he and Sessegnon will miss their FAC tie at Everton as a consequence of their ill-discipline.
Truth be told that derby game could have been any one played over the last forty years and the problem was Sunderland succeeded in dragging us down to their level. O’Neill turned the game into a war and I can’t have been the only one to be flabbergasted by Dean’s decision to give Simpson a yellow card after he’d objected to being taken out by McLean in front of the Gallowgate End. The Irishman should have gone for that.


But the real flashpoint came on the final whistle with O’Neill seeking to distract media scrutiny from his team of ale-house scrappers by making fully unsubstantiated allegations against Newcastle United’s coaching team. O’Neill claims he “heard” members of the United coaching team had visited the Ref at HT. Maybe these are voices in his head. That has been completely denied by Alan Pardew. So now O’Neill either needs to provide proof about this s0-called visit or retract the serious allegation immediately. If the man is wrong, then he needs to accept that. If he’s not, prove it. If he can’t prove it and doesn’t retract it, then the man is an idiot or a liar. I am writing this as someone who has had respect for O’Neill and an admiration for him. This fanzine wanted him as manager when Souness was sacked. What O’Neill does with Sunderland in every other fixture they play is absolutely immaterial to us but accusing our people of underhand tactics following a match when we have just witnessed his team turn a game into a kicking competition is just beyond the pale. O’Neill’s decision to decline Pardew’s offer a post-match drink as is the tradition smacks of a classlessness. O’Neill has every reason to be disappointed his team was denied its first win at St James’ Park in twelve years but he should have learnt to act with some kind of professionalism and decorum.


Let it be on the record, if O’Neill does not retract his allegations about Alan Pardew or provide evidence before Tuesday morning, we put it to him that he is a liar!
Suggests to me that the Mags are soft as shite cry baby's.
 
Newcastle were poor, if they believe what they've written in that article then they really have got problems.

Fouls were 14:14.

So we're dirty, but they aren't? I thought they got away with murder.
 
What exactly is so wrong with it? Cattermole's challenge was clearly pre-meditated and later on in the game he'd have probably gone. The fact McClean didn't get even a booking is farcical. Finally, if O'Neill's claims are false, like it seems, he should have the book thrown at him as he's completely and totally out of order, class is a favourite issue of many on here and what he's said is completely classless, if fabricated. I know it's the norm to dismiss TF as a bunch of no-nothing mag kernts on here, but I don't see how you can have many arguments with the crux of that article.

He got booked you thick little stuffed can of crap

And it was a fair challenge, imo. Hard - but fair
 
Exactly to expectations, O’Neill brought his team of thugs to St James’ Park and they set out to do what the Irishman’s teams do – foul and spoil. Every player behind the ball! For Sunderland 2012 read Leicester 1996. For Muzzy Izzett read Lee Cattermole. That is where Ellis Short’s tens of millions of pounds of investment has brought them. A team of artless cloggers! Should we be surprised? Not really, this is the club whose followers idolise Kevin Ball. We are the supporters who idolise Peter Beardsley. No more need be said.
I was absolutely staggered by Dean’s decision not to give Cattermole a straight red card for a tackle on Chieck Tiote in the opening minute. No-one will tell me this no-mark, piece of trash hadn’t been instructed all week to make a tackle like that and it comes as little consolation that the yob should be sent off for abusing the referee at the final whistle even if it does mean he and Sessegnon will miss their FAC tie at Everton as a consequence of their ill-discipline.
Truth be told that derby game could have been any one played over the last forty years and the problem was Sunderland succeeded in dragging us down to their level. O’Neill turned the game into a war and I can’t have been the only one to be flabbergasted by Dean’s decision to give Simpson a yellow card after he’d objected to being taken out by McLean in front of the Gallowgate End. The Irishman should have gone for that.


But the real flashpoint came on the final whistle with O’Neill seeking to distract media scrutiny from his team of ale-house scrappers by making fully unsubstantiated allegations against Newcastle United’s coaching team. O’Neill claims he “heard” members of the United coaching team had visited the Ref at HT. Maybe these are voices in his head. That has been completely denied by Alan Pardew. So now O’Neill either needs to provide proof about this s0-called visit or retract the serious allegation immediately. If the man is wrong, then he needs to accept that. If he’s not, prove it. If he can’t prove it and doesn’t retract it, then the man is an idiot or a liar. I am writing this as someone who has had respect for O’Neill and an admiration for him. This fanzine wanted him as manager when Souness was sacked. What O’Neill does with Sunderland in every other fixture they play is absolutely immaterial to us but accusing our people of underhand tactics following a match when we have just witnessed his team turn a game into a kicking competition is just beyond the pale. O’Neill’s decision to decline Pardew’s offer a post-match drink as is the tradition smacks of a classlessness. O’Neill has every reason to be disappointed his team was denied its first win at St James’ Park in twelve years but he should have learnt to act with some kind of professionalism and decorum.


Let it be on the record, if O’Neill does not retract his allegations about Alan Pardew or provide evidence before Tuesday morning, we put it to him that he is a liar!

:lol:

Did an American write that?
 
gipetto said:
Newcastle were poor, if they believe what they've written in that article then they really have got problems.

Fouls were 14:14.

So we're dirty, but they aren't? I thought they got away with murder.

The Guardian had us committing 15 to their 14 but given that they had the ball for over 60%of the game who fouls more frequently when the other team has the ball?
 
Thankfully not everyone holds your primordial attitude to football. That sort of shit isn't allowed anymore and so your player should have been appropriately punished. A premeditated attack like that is nothing more than the actions of a coward.

:lol::lol::lol:

Tiote shit himself. As did your whole midfield. It was funny to see. Your team is as soft as your fans are.

McClean nearly ate Simpson and McClean is only 22.
 
Was a thread earlier, others said they did, not the type to tell tales or say stuff without reason to. Imagine it was a minority if true.

fuck off man. i was in the ground, know atleast 5 people in the away end, know mags who sit right near the away fans and nobody heard out. people want to be the bearers of stories and hear stuff and pass it on as fact. stop rising to it and treating it as fact, its like when people said milwall fans disrupted the speed minute silence when they didnt.
 
All I seem to be hearing is Newcastle based sources blaming us for ruining their day.

If we reduced the game to a brawl because of persistent fouling, how come the Beebs match stats show 28 fouls in the game, fourteen of which were down to Newcastle and fourteen to us. definitely a landslide of foul play on our side then. :roll:
 
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