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What exactly is so wrong with it? Cattermole's challenge was clearly pre-meditated and later on in the game he'd have probably gone. The fact McClean didn't get even a booking is farcical. Finally, if O'Neill's claims are false, like it seems, he should have the book thrown at him as he's completely and totally out of order, class is a favourite issue of many on here and what he's said is completely classless, if fabricated. I know it's the norm to dismiss TF as a bunch of no-nothing mag kernts on here, but I don't see how you can have many arguments with the crux of that article.

The crux is that it's shite. Pretty easy to argue against shite.
 
What exactly is so wrong with it? Cattermole's challenge was clearly pre-meditated and later on in the game he'd have probably gone. The fact McClean didn't get even a booking is farcical. Finally, if O'Neill's claims are false, like it seems, he should have the book thrown at him as he's completely and totally out of order, class is a favourite issue of many on here and what he's said is completely classless, if fabricated. I know it's the norm to dismiss TF as a bunch of no-nothing mag kernts on here, but I don't see how you can have many arguments with the crux of that article.

You've done well there like marra. :lol:

What did you think of wor Alan's antics on the side lines there mate?
 
Mclean did get booked, neither his nor cattermoles tackles were red cards. To suggest they should have been is bollocks

Cattermole could've easily went for his tackle and probably would have later on in the game. Clearly pre-meditated with the intention of quieting Tiote for the match knowing a referee is very unlikely to send a man off in the first minute of a derby. Similar to De Jong's assault on Ben Arfa last season.
 
Cattermole could've easily went for his tackle and probably would have later on in the game. Clearly pre-meditated with the intention of quieting Tiote for the match knowing a referee is very unlikely to send a man off in the first minute of a derby. Similar to De Jong's assault on Ben Arfa last season.

All your "icons" were shite man. Tiote committed at least 5/6 fouls? Should have been sent off before Sess threw an arm anywhere near him. Cattermole but in an overzealous challenge and was rightly booked for it. Nee more, nee less.
 
Exactly to expectations, O’Neill brought his team of thugs to St James’ Park and they set out to do what the Irishman’s teams do – foul and spoil.

Thats why Kevin Keegan and Chris Waddle commentating on the game stated that all newcastle players did in the first hals was foul and that only one team were playing football sunderland.

Tiote was a disgrace 2 elbows and two over the top cowards tackles not to mentioning acting like a girl when he went down
 
You've done well there like marra. :lol:

What did you think of wor Alan's antics on the side lines there mate?

They were completely unnecessary. At least he came out and apologised after he'd calmed down instead of spreading playground tales like his classier counterpart.
 
Exactly to expectations, O’Neill brought his team of thugs to St James’ Park and they set out to do what the Irishman’s teams do – foul and spoil. Every player behind the ball! For Sunderland 2012 read Leicester 1996. For Muzzy Izzett read Lee Cattermole. That is where Ellis Short’s tens of millions of pounds of investment has brought them. A team of artless cloggers! Should we be surprised? Not really, this is the club whose followers idolise Kevin Ball. We are the supporters who idolise Peter Beardsley. No more need be said.
I was absolutely staggered by Dean’s decision not to give Cattermole a straight red card for a tackle on Chieck Tiote in the opening minute. No-one will tell me this no-mark, piece of trash hadn’t been instructed all week to make a tackle like that and it comes as little consolation that the yob should be sent off for abusing the referee at the final whistle even if it does mean he and Sessegnon will miss their FAC tie at Everton as a consequence of their ill-discipline.
Truth be told that derby game could have been any one played over the last forty years and the problem was Sunderland succeeded in dragging us down to their level. O’Neill turned the game into a war and I can’t have been the only one to be flabbergasted by Dean’s decision to give Simpson a yellow card after he’d objected to being taken out by McLean in front of the Gallowgate End. The Irishman should have gone for that.


But the real flashpoint came on the final whistle with O’Neill seeking to distract media scrutiny from his team of ale-house scrappers by making fully unsubstantiated allegations against Newcastle United’s coaching team. O’Neill claims he “heard” members of the United coaching team had visited the Ref at HT. Maybe these are voices in his head. That has been completely denied by Alan Pardew. So now O’Neill either needs to provide proof about this s0-called visit or retract the serious allegation immediately. If the man is wrong, then he needs to accept that. If he’s not, prove it. If he can’t prove it and doesn’t retract it, then the man is an idiot or a liar. I am writing this as someone who has had respect for O’Neill and an admiration for him. This fanzine wanted him as manager when Souness was sacked. What O’Neill does with Sunderland in every other fixture they play is absolutely immaterial to us but accusing our people of underhand tactics following a match when we have just witnessed his team turn a game into a kicking competition is just beyond the pale. O’Neill’s decision to decline Pardew’s offer a post-match drink as is the tradition smacks of a classlessness. O’Neill has every reason to be disappointed his team was denied its first win at St James’ Park in twelve years but he should have learnt to act with some kind of professionalism and decorum.


Let it be on the record, if O’Neill does not retract his allegations about Alan Pardew or provide evidence before Tuesday morning, we put it to him that he is a liar!

Who writes this stuff? After ploughing through it I think I have been just about able to grasp the bones of what he is trying to say.

But the fact that he seems to be talking histrionic rubbish is almost beside the point. It is barely intelligible.

Do people actually pay to read this verbiage?
 
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Cattermole could've easily went for his tackle and probably would have later on in the game. Clearly pre-meditated with the intention of quieting Tiote for the match knowing a referee is very unlikely to send a man off in the first minute of a derby. Similar to De Jong's assault on Ben Arfa last season.


Nothing like De Jong's tackle and why would Cattermole have been sent off later in the game? He didn't commit any fouls even close to being a yellow card.

Here's a question, was Cattermole's nasty tackle as bad as Nolan's on the young Everton lad, or Guthrie's on the Hull lad?

I see nothing wrong with a 'quick hallo' in football. Welcome to the game, touch the ball again and I swear to christ I'll break your f***ing legs. It's a man's game not a roll on the floor screaming like a little girl's game. You lot have turned soft. John Anderson was embarrassed for you on totalsport.
 
Exactly to expectations, O’Neill brought his team of thugs to St James’ Park and they set out to do what the Irishman’s teams do – foul and spoil. Every player behind the ball! For Sunderland 2012 read Leicester 1996. For Muzzy Izzett read Lee Cattermole. That is where Ellis Short’s tens of millions of pounds of investment has brought them. A team of artless cloggers! Should we be surprised? Not really, this is the club whose followers idolise Kevin Ball. We are the supporters who idolise Peter Beardsley. No more need be said.
I was absolutely staggered by Dean’s decision not to give Cattermole a straight red card for a tackle on Chieck Tiote in the opening minute. No-one will tell me this no-mark, piece of trash hadn’t been instructed all week to make a tackle like that and it comes as little consolation that the yob should be sent off for abusing the referee at the final whistle even if it does mean he and Sessegnon will miss their FAC tie at Everton as a consequence of their ill-discipline.
Truth be told that derby game could have been any one played over the last forty years and the problem was Sunderland succeeded in dragging us down to their level. O’Neill turned the game into a war and I can’t have been the only one to be flabbergasted by Dean’s decision to give Simpson a yellow card after he’d objected to being taken out by McLean in front of the Gallowgate End. The Irishman should have gone for that.


But the real flashpoint came on the final whistle with O’Neill seeking to distract media scrutiny from his team of ale-house scrappers by making fully unsubstantiated allegations against Newcastle United’s coaching team. O’Neill claims he “heard” members of the United coaching team had visited the Ref at HT. Maybe these are voices in his head. That has been completely denied by Alan Pardew. So now O’Neill either needs to provide proof about this s0-called visit or retract the serious allegation immediately. If the man is wrong, then he needs to accept that. If he’s not, prove it. If he can’t prove it and doesn’t retract it, then the man is an idiot or a liar. I am writing this as someone who has had respect for O’Neill and an admiration for him. This fanzine wanted him as manager when Souness was sacked. What O’Neill does with Sunderland in every other fixture they play is absolutely immaterial to us but accusing our people of underhand tactics following a match when we have just witnessed his team turn a game into a kicking competition is just beyond the pale. O’Neill’s decision to decline Pardew’s offer a post-match drink as is the tradition smacks of a classlessness. O’Neill has every reason to be disappointed his team was denied its first win at St James’ Park in twelve years but he should have learnt to act with some kind of professionalism and decorum.


Let it be on the record, if O’Neill does not retract his allegations about Alan Pardew or provide evidence before Tuesday morning, we put it to him that he is a liar!


Definetely proves they only started in 1992 as they obviously never saw a Joe Bolton tackle

even one of their staunch own "John Anderson" has had a go at Tiote

Really sad that they cannot even put across a well reasoned argument
 
They were completely unnecessary. At least he came out and apologised after he'd calmed down instead of spreading playground tales like his classier counterpart.

He looked like an absolute tit, then Ba fluffed his lines to compound a dreadful performance from him, making Pardew look an even BIGGER tit. He then claimed he'd never done something like this before, which was a lie. The bloke is a classless, top lipless, pervy looking cunt
 
They were completely unnecessary. At least he came out and apologised after he'd calmed down instead of spreading playground tales like his classier counterpart.

Oh, they've proved it's bull shit. Why did ye physio or whatever he is get sent to the stands mate? Saying sorry changes nowt, he does the fucker all the time. When he's not shaggin other peoples wives anyway.
 
Self righteous, accusational, overly defensive shite. Reads like one of those laughable "open letters" that appear every other day on RAWK.
 
Nothing like De Jong's tackle and why would Cattermole have been sent off later in the game? He didn't commit any fouls even close to being a yellow card.

Here's a question, was Cattermole's nasty tackle as bad as Nolan's on the young Everton lad, or Guthrie's on the Hull lad?

I see nothing wrong with a 'quick hallo' in football. Welcome to the game, touch the ball again and I swear to christ I'll break your f***ing legs. It's a man's game not a roll on the floor screaming like a little girl's game. You lot have turned soft. John Anderson was embarrassed for you on totalsport.

Wasn't even that bad. The leg break was unfortunate.
 
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