"Tony Mowbray pays the price for overachieving with young'uns."


It is a great article for sure, but one that has a few holes in it say in a catch 22 type way. For example it states that Chelsea for example gave us the nod with Burstow knowing that Mowbray was key to it etc, yet in Mowbray last interview he clearly stated that lads weren’t ready and inexperienced etc. My point is this, If we have a model of playing the includes a style of play and the emphasis on young players on loan or bought with a high resale value then surely everyone within the club is on board with this. Don’t get me wrong I’m gutted Mowbray has gone as he was one of those rare decent honest folk you don’t seem to get these days, however he must have also been included with this model, therefore I’m u sure what his last statement was aimed at.
 
Thanks for posting. That is some article. Echoes a lot of people's mixed emotions about Mowbray's departure. She's usually very good when writing about Sunderland.
 
Good Article and correct in the assumption that teams above us with talented yet raw youngsters will now consider Sunderland AFC a riskier place to develop them, most especially if we now install an unproven young foreign Manager which seems likely given the 'moneyball' philosophy of our current owners.

(Unfortunately as the saying goes with our current young Strikers, Uncle Tony found it difficult to polish a Turd)

Ha'way the Lads and Up the Pools!! :cool:
 
Just read that article and I think it's an accurate summary of the circumstances leading to Mowbray's departure
I'm quite apprehensive about what is to come. I understand why the club have decided to make a change as we have definitely lost our way since the end of September, and we lose too many games.
However the prospective managers from abroad being mentioned have a lot to prove and like some of our players are not ready yet.
I can't see it being anyone like Lampard, Terry, Dean Smith etc and would be disappointed if it was. Similarly we are not going to appoint from the older, experienced end of the available market in managers this time.
I'd be happy with Potter (which I know is a non starter) and wouldn't be unhappy with Heckingbottom.
 
Balanced, fair article that's bang on, however, once Mowbray spoke out after the Millwall game it was only gonna end one way. You cant sign up to be a head coach and be on board with "the model" then speak out against it.
I don't think he was ever against the model - he loved working with an improving young players. But he was pointing out the (obvious) pitfalls of the model, because we've hit one of them, and he wanted to defend himself. He seems to think that we've got the balance a bit wrong. But that's very different from him not being on board with the principles of the model as a whole.

Good article. The effect of not having TM as head coach may indeed make it harder for us to be trusted by premiership clubs with loans. But I think Louise goes a bit OTT with this. After all, we loaned Amad before TM was appointed.
 
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I don't think he was ever against the model - he loved working with an improving young players. But he was pointing out the (obvious) pitfalls of the model, because we've hit one of them, and he wanted to defend himself. He seems to think that we've got the balance a bit wrong. But that's very different from him not being on board with the principles of the model as a whole.

Good article. The effect of not having TM as head coach may indeed make it harder for us to be trusted by premiership clubs with loans. But I think Louise goes a bit OTT with this. After all, we loaned Amad before TM was appointed.
He might not have been against the model, probably the wrong wording, but his statement after Millwall was certainly a pushback aimed at directing some of the flak Speakmans way.
 
TM was good with kids and had an excellent first season. That's unarguable - but she's making him sound like a cross between Bielsa and Pep in that article.

And

"Sunderland had applied data-driven metrics to identify up-and-coming coaches and the 34-year-old Farioli’s statistics looked good. It seemed Mowbray’s real world experience, not to mention human skills, did not count for quite so much."

Is absolute bollocks. Data will measure outcomes, a player or manager's behaviours as well as technical skills will drive outcomes and so be reflected in data.
 
I think its a shite article. Our aim of developing new talent hasn't changed, the new coach will have to sign into this same mantra. Talking about his integrity, like in public stating none of the 4 signings were ready, Ekwah needs a slap, Hemir is last to turn up for training then first to leave. It must have delighted Chelsea to here that as it was Mowbray that allegedly was the reason Burstow was loaned here. She fails to mention our form, his lack of ability to react and change formation and his scatterbook substitutions. Picking Seelt playing out of position then dropping him from the squad the following day. His unwillingness not to move O'Nien out of the CB role as we are leaking easily preventable goals and he is involved in most of them.

Apart from that its a canny read
 

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