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Of course we have. People are either Young or have short memories ...

In terms of talent we probably have. At the level he's playing at rarely have we had a regular so much out of their depth and lacking involvement though. Not suprising giving we're not playing him in advanced central midfield where he's played in lesser leagues or in attack where he's played in lesser leagues and on occasions at International level, no we're starting a criminally slow 6ft+ forward in central midfield and the results are IMO to be expected. He's been quite disciplined in the positions he takes up and getting into position , but he's criminally out of his depth playing there.
 
You just cannot play Danny Graham and Toivonen at the same time....its like they're pulling the team coach around with them all game long....wtf Allardyce!!
 
Toivonen is vastly under-rated. His ability to stand in a space is second to none. Also, I don't think anyone else in the team is capable of taking as many steps per yard as he is. I think the lad must be trying to hit his 10k steps target as quickly as possible.
 
Anyone who says he done "alright" needs to remember we are fighting to stay up and some useless bastard wandering around doing "alright" is f***ing not good enough to play in this team. He didnt do alright , he just wandered through the game mostly invisible

I have backed allardyce from the start but if he plays this clown on wednesday then i will start to question him

Its like playing with an injured player , the useless fucker cant even get up into a sprint...i feel like gnawing my hands off every time i see the fucker
 
I think he's past it now, I don't rate him either. Should be sending him back to free up space for a quality player if possible.
 
If it's a choice between him and Rodwell I'd go for Toivonen every time. That is how bad Rodwell is, I'd rather have an anonymous donkey instead of him because he's at least a fit anonymous donkey.
 
Haven't seen him do anything good to be honest mate.

In the first half he was looking as if he was getting into the way the PL works.

He looked bewildered in the second half which was disappointing.

I keep seeing glimpses but they vanish before you're sure they're there.
 
In the first half he was looking as if he was getting into the way the PL works.

He looked bewildered in the second half which was disappointing.

I keep seeing glimpses but they vanish before you're sure they're there.

I think he's got talent on the ball, but he's no midfielder. Trouble is he's too slow and cumbersome and uninvoled because of the fast paced game and athletes around him, getting him on the ball often is nigh on impossible.
 
He's always been a link between midfield and attack getting on the end of things. He's literally useless further back and has to be in a three so therefore fairly useless to us anyway. We have too many midfielders who are so slow they have to be in a three.
 
I think he's got talent on the ball, but he's no midfielder. Trouble is he's too slow and cumbersome and uninvoled because of the fast paced game and athletes around him, getting him on the ball often is nigh on impossible.

It's hard work watching him isn't it ......... he needs people running off him so he can play the ball immediately.

We just can't play that way.
 
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