Tin Foil Hatter's- Anti Vaxer's



chrismisterx

chrismisterx

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Frijj said:
06:14 on a Saturday morning and he’s posting that shite man. Unreal.
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Always happy to discuss points with people, but getting a little sick when they ignore your points of view and questions and just keep asking what they want to know, a debate is a two way street, I guess the reason its done is when they dont have a strong argument at all and have to cling to the odd sound bite.
 
Frijj

Frijj

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Hugh Gains said:
I haven’t

But it’s undeniable which way the whole thing was decided to go. You can see how narrative was adjusted in those WhatsApp messages.
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You’re pushing sinister motives there though. Anything the state tells the population has a “narrative” if you want to go down that route.

You seem to think by virtue of the fact that a narrative exists that there were sinister motives.

Would you have preferred the govt gave no narrative and just carried on through COVID as if nothing was different?

No communications, no messaging, no “narrative” to change behaviour to save lives, just carry on in the dark and don’t worry about all these people becoming unwell.

Don’t forget you’re only seeing the WhatsApp messages that an openly and aggressively COVID/lockdown newspaper (The Telegraph) is showing you.

I don’t hear you complaining about them pushing a narrative though. Presumably because you like their narrative.
 
Hugh Gains

Hugh Gains

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Frijj said:
You’re pushing sinister motives there though. Anything the state tells the population has a “narrative” if you want to go down that route.

You seem to think by virtue of the fact that a narrative exists that there were sinister motives.

Would you have preferred the govt gave no narrative and just carried on through COVID as if nothing was different?

No communications, no messaging, no “narrative” to change behaviour to save lives, just carry on in the dark and don’t worry about all these people becoming unwell.

Don’t forget you’re only seeing the WhatsApp messages that an openly and aggressively COVID/lockdown newspaper (The Telegraph) is showing you.

I don’t hear you complaining about them pushing a narrative though. Presumably because you like their narrative.
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Undeniable fact that anyone who expressed concern, queried or questioned the vaccines, covid, lockdown etc was immediately shot down and labelled.

Yes you had those saying lockdowns were government control and full david icke but you also had reputable people who expressed concerns over lockdown for example, provided their evidence and findings and were still ostracised and associated with the loons. Yes it's easy for these people to say now that more information is available to them down the road etc but it's a clear fact that one trail of thought and one way of tackling covid was decided upon by the few. This does not mean it was sinister, this does not mean it was conspiracy, but it does mean that decisions were made in an echo chamber.
 
Frijj

Frijj

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Hugh Gains said:
Undeniable fact that anyone who expressed concern, queried or questioned the vaccines, covid, lockdown etc was immediately shot down and labelled.

Yes you had those saying lockdowns were government control and full david icke but you also had reputable people who expressed concerns over lockdown for example, provided their evidence and findings and were still ostracised and associated with the loons. Yes it's easy for these people to say now that more information is available to them down the road etc but it's a clear fact that one trail of thought and one way of tackling covid was decided upon by the few. This does not mean it was sinister, this does not mean it was conspiracy, but it does mean that decisions were made in an echo chamber.
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It isn’t an undeniable fact. The people who were shot down were the loons, not those asking legitimate and well-informed questions of lockdown policies and procedures.

Perhaps the disconnect here is that you view movements and groups such as the Great Barrington Declaration as “reputable” and “evidenced” whereas I see them as bullshit merchants of the highest order.

Decisions were made by a small number of people, but what was the alternative, how could you democratically determine the COVID response and why should you?

The vast majority of the population has no qualifications or experience relevant to the handling of a pandemic and if you left it up to the people, the pubs and shops would have stayed open and we’d have seen many more deaths.

Your problem is you just hate “the mainstream”, it’s why you act how you do on the Russia threads, you’re so desperate to prove how clever you are that you have to take a controversial view to show that you see things that the majority don’t.

Lockdown bad, I’m not a sheep, Zelensky bad, I’m not a sheep.

You’ll be exactly the same the next time 90% of people back something. You will be in the 10% every time.
 
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