There are a plethora of managers who have spent less than the buffoon and are doing/have done a better job.
10th. fuck off.
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There are a plethora of managers who have spent less than the buffoon and are doing/have done a better job.
There are a plethora of managers who have spent less than the buffoon and are doing/have done a better job.
It's easier to spend less when you already have a good basis of a team. Bruce didn't and he has had to overhaul just about every player from the Keano (and before Keane) era who were just not good enough. It's a long process of shipping out players and replacing them with better players, even then those players may only be short term and may be shipped out next season for greater quality (it's not easy for a club in our position when we came up to just buy the best players from the off).
Most teams in the Prem already have this basis of a squad from being there for a good few seasons, teams coming up don't usually have that basis and it's pot luck how they fare if they don't spend. Even if they do spend there is a massive chance of still going down due to the quality of the teams already in the Prem who have had years to tweak their squads.
Take the mags for example. They didn't spend much when they came up because they already still had the basis of a squad able to compete in the Prem from their years in the Prem previously.
It's easier to spend less when you already have a good basis of a team. Bruce didn't and he has had to overhaul just about every player from the Keano (and before Keane) era who were just not good enough. It's a long process of shipping out players and replacing them with better players, even then those players may only be short term and may be shipped out next season for greater quality (it's not easy for a club in our position when we came up to just buy the best players from the off).
Most teams in the Prem already have this basis of a squad from being there for a good few seasons, teams coming up don't usually have that basis and it's pot luck how they fare if they don't spend. Even if they do spend there is a massive chance of still going down due to the quality of the teams already in the Prem who have had years to tweak their squads.
Take the mags for example. They didn't spend much when they came up because they already still had the basis of a squad able to compete in the Prem from their years in the Prem previously.
We've gone backwards in terms of quality up front and possibly in options from widest areas and defence this season, where does that fit into your argument? Barring brown and o'shea, where is all this quality he's brought in?
Yu cannot dismiss Bent and Gyan just because they fucked off to chase the filthy lucre.
We cannot offer:
Better players want the above. Unless we go down the Boro/mags route and throw money at them, we cannot attract them and there's fuck all Bruce or any other manager at SAFC can do about that.
- £100k+ per week
- European football
- London/bright lights/shopping etc
Will you stop making sensible posts please - this isn't the thread for it.
Are you saying that Gordon, bardsley, Richardson, Ferdinand, malbranque, Jones added to others who must have been at least reasonable as we managed to sell them and young lads like Henderson, colback and meyler wasn't the basis of a decent premiership squad?
All of the first six would be first team members now. It's very true we needed to add quality and build on that, but to say most on here weren't good enough and we needed drastic changes ignores many of the players who were here have continued to play for us and in other cases done reasonably well elsewhere.
We've gone backwards in terms of quality up front and possibly in options from widest areas and defence this season, where does that fit into your argument? Barring brown and o'shea, where is all this quality he's brought in?
I would say that except goalkeeper and mb left back, wing and attack we have improved in all other areas since Bruce came. That is my opinion.... base a little bit on how you stack up the attack at the moment. And the difference between richardson and collins is more that one is better at defending the other going forward... left mid well... still have richardson ad larsson (got others as well) miss malbranque... not that big difference maybe actually a bit better. time will tell...
however that was not the point of the thread which simply is saying that Bruce is a big spender (counting in sales) is wrong.
he is a big spenderOh I see so I have imagined that he has spent over 70 million.
Are you saying that Gordon, bardsley, Richardson, Ferdinand, malbranque, Jones added to others who must have been at least reasonable as we managed to sell them and young lads like Henderson, colback and meyler wasn't the basis of a decent premiership squad?
All of the first six would be first team members now. It's very true we needed to add quality and build on that, but to say most on here weren't good enough and we needed drastic changes ignores many of the players who were here have continued to play for us and in other cases done reasonably well elsewhere.
We've gone backwards in terms of quality up front and possibly in options from widest areas and defence this season, where does that fit into your argument? Barring brown and o'shea, where is all this quality he's brought in?
Our team now would hammer the team that was left to Bruce when he came in.
Oh I see so I have imagined that he has spent over 70 million.
Yu cannot dismiss Bent and Gyan just because they fucked off to chase the filthy lucre.
We cannot offer:
Better players want the above. Unless we go down the Boro/mags route and throw money at them, we cannot attract them and there's fuck all Bruce or any other manager at SAFC can do about that.
- £100k+ per week
- European football
- London/bright lights/shopping etc
We scraped relegation by the skin of our teeth, which shows the team just wasn't good enough as a whole. Bar a few players like Gordon the team really wasn't much cop. Bardsley was playing shite, Richardson didn't have any consistency and didn't know where he was meant to be played, Jones wasn't bothered and had been injured for ages, Malbranque was decent, Ferdinand couldn't concentrate but was ok. It wasn't a good enough basis for a mid table Prem team where Bruce wanted us to be hitting within a few years.
Our quality upfront went up loads when Bruce got here. You think Jones was better than Bent? Or is Chopra better than Bent?
Our wide areas have always been poor, we have MUCH better players out there this season in Sess and Larsson. How many goals and chances did our other years wingers create us? Chopra bagged a few but he was a striker hoyyed out there for kicks.
And to say our defence has not improved. WTF?
Our team now would hammer the team that was left to Bruce when he came in.
It has been explained to you so many times it is ridiculous.... you simply are a lost cause.
How much has he spent on players?
There are a plethora of managers who have spent less than the buffoon and are doing/have done a better job.
Gonna have to name names here like.