This sums it up for me


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We're hamstrung by poor decisions. Drummerville had a scattergun approach and the Henderson money was never invested correctly. Add to that De Fanti and countless changes of manager. If we arn't generating cash we can't spend. It's almost like we can't afford to be a Premier League club.

exactly but the point was clubs are not gambling they actually unlike us have room to manoeuvre within FFP limitations..........
 
We should go out and hire the best youth development team we can get, put all of our efforts into bringing 2 0r 3 real prospects through year on year, and accept we are not prepared to spend real money on genuine quality.

All we are doing is repeating thee cycle of fannying around year on year, and making no progress whatsoever, let's build, and accept that the rewards will take time.

What exactly is our strategy to catch up with the top 10?
I really dont think theres anything like the strategy youve outlined unfortunately, i agree totally with you on what we should be doing, weve just wasted 8/9 years.
 

Well written, agree with it all. The book stops with Short with some dreadful managerial appointments, dreadful DOF appointments with the result of some awful recruitment of players.

Has the transfer window shut like?

Irrelevant, as the article says, everybody round us has stolen a big march on us. Desperate signings 4 weeks into this season after a disastrous start is not what we need.

exactly but the point was clubs are not gambling they actually unlike us have room to manoeuvre within FFP limitations..........

Surely a damning indictment of Shorts time in charge in itself?
 
Seriously theres a lot of ifs and buts to add to the article but generally its a pretty sad appraisal of where we are at. Yes the transfer window is still open and anything ( not quite ) is possible. We have the FFP business holding us back but continue to make what i consider mistakes. Look at our first action of the summer......offer Wes Brown a new contract. I'm not privvy to how much the guy is on a week but to winge about the wage bill and then keep this guys money on the books for him to sit on the bench beggars belief.
 
Well written, agree with it all. The book stops with Short with some dreadful managerial appointments, dreadful DOF appointments with the result of some awful recruitment of players.



Irrelevant, as the article says, everybody round us has stolen a big march on us. Desperate signings 4 weeks into this season after a disastrous start is not what we need.



Surely a damning indictment of Shorts time in charge in itself?
Southampton producing loads of saleable assets every PL is envious of is a damming indictment of Shorts time in charge"...??

Inheriting a wage bill that always been stupidly high since Drumaville which is the advantage Palace has isn't either............
 
You know they guy has seen us spend £29 million on Fletcher, Graham and Wickham
Plus wages
Nee wonder he is wary of shelling out more of his own money.
Couple of points raised here mind.

- He is ultimately responsible for who he allows to spend his money. If he's received bad advice, he should have been questioning it long before now.

- And if you aren't spending money when in the premier league you'll be left for dead. There's no room for going in the huff about who has wasted your money in the past. Trust who you have appointed, and back them.
 
No teams like Southampton have the luxury of profit on player sales and Crystal Palace have a wage bill that's well below the benchmark at which FFP restrictions start........

The fact is though that they're better run than us so actually have saleable assets and any players they have on high wages are probably earning them.
 
The fact is though that they're better run than us so actually have saleable assets and any players they have on high wages are probably earning them.
Yes but folk keep quoting Southampton but they are pretty unique in terms of what they churn out and no other clubs got close.......

They must have a large catchment area which surely helps...........
 
Yes but folk keep quoting Southampton but they are pretty unique in terms of what they churn out and no other clubs got close.......

They must have a large catchment area which surely helps...........

Take 2 examples Walcott & Bale.....London & Wales....not exactly anything to do with catchment area there
 
Yes but folk keep quoting Southampton but they are pretty unique in terms of what they churn out and no other clubs got close.......

They must have a large catchment area which surely helps...........

The thing I keep returning to though is that they and Swansea were both in the third tier of English football during our current PL stint. Obviously Southampton's academy is top class but they and Swansea (and recently Stoke, Palace, West Ham) are making better decisions than we are in almost every aspect of recruitment and administration. For me the mix of people running our club just isn't dynamic enough nor imaginative enough......I doubt many (any even) would find a similar role at any other PL club.
 
Take 2 examples Walcott & Bale.....London & Wales....not exactly anything to do with catchment area there
And...it was a guess not a definitive answer.......they are still doing something no other club can get close to so why they are a stick to beat us with is beyond me.............

The thing I keep returning to though is that they and Swansea were both in the third tier of English football during our current PL stint. Obviously Southampton's academy is top class but they and Swansea (and recently Stoke, Palace, West Ham) are making better decisions than we are in almost every aspect of recruitment and administration. For me the mix of people running our club just isn't dynamic enough nor imaginative enough......I doubt many (any even) would find a similar role at any other PL club.
The very fact they have been there and in Southamptons case in administration has given them a low cost base to build sensibly from.........we came up with Keane and we blew the bills out of the window and have been playing catch up ever since..........
 
Southampton producing loads of saleable assets every PL is envious of is a damming indictment of Shorts time in charge"...??

Inheriting a wage bill that always been stupidly high since Drumaville which is the advantage Palace has isn't either............

So how many years of failure while he is in charge do we have to endure before it becomes his fault?

Your argument sounds like the bloody politicians, "I know the country is going to shit but look at what we inherited 9 years ago"
 
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