This potentially getting promoted 'too soon' debate...


Take a look at Coventry Balti they are a good side and have been in Championship and league one for the past 20+years, you CANNOT simply pick and choose when to go up, you need to grasp it with both hands and let the cards lie where they fall, worry about next season next season.

Thought theyd changed their name just then! 😂
If I’m totally honest we have probably over achieved with what we have at our disposal. It just goes to show how much a good team spirit matters. Its obvious looking at them they are playing without the pressures of it being vital to get promoted.
I also wonder what KLD is thinking. He will know in the unlikely event that we gain promotion players contracts will rocket. Will he be that bothered if things don’t turn out the way we would love it to?

He should feck off if he doesnt relish a club of our size being up there asap.
 
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This team (with central defenders and centre forward fit) would finish outside of the bottom three of the prem, I'm convinced of it. Amad staying for another season withstanding.
I agree. The young players like Patterson, Hume, Ballard, Cirkin, Alese, Ekwah, Clarke and Neil look to me to be about ready to give the PL a go. The older cohort; Roberts, Stewart, Pritchard, O9, Gooch and Batth will be itching to play PL, for different reasons (a last hurrah, unfinished business, a new challenge). We'd need to add to the squad, but we've got the bones of a squad that would have a chance in the PL.
 
I shall begin to worry about wether promotion to the Premier league has come too soon when we find ourselves 2 up in the 85th minute of the final .

Until then I will just enjoy the football and the excitement because although I hope things won't they might just come to an abrupt end before then. There's still the matter of a couple of very tough games that have to be won.
 
If people don't want us to go up then don't watch the game tonight or bother wanting a Wembley ticket
There's not a single sunderland fan who wouldn't take promotion right now, they'll say otherwise but there is no greater place to be for the club than the prem. And should it come crashing down, I'd have faith in the footballing side of things retaining dignity.
 
I cast my mind back to losing to Charlton at Wembley in 1998. Utterly devastating at the time, after a great season. But hindsight suggests staying down a further season then storming to the title stood us in better stead going into the Premier League.

I wonder if potentially going up this year, despite the blatantly obvious financially lucrative benefits, might be similar? We now already have more than a nucleus of a very good side. Another season in the Championship with most of these players (with Ekwah, Hume, Cirkin, Hume, Neil, Ba, Michael potentially and others) gaining another full season of experience, along with bedding in hopefully two or more new strikers, might mean we go up stronger.

The 'danger' is that going up now and potentially coming straight down again might result in this exciting young team (that could spend several years developing and improving) being dismantled sooner. Yes we would be in the Championship with loads of money, in a 'better' state to have another go, but who knows?

All hypothetical anyway since we might get knocked out tonight or lose at Wembley, or we might go up and stay up!

Part of me just feels that should we not go up this month, next season could see us having a storming season with this current crop (with reinforcements) being much stronger and being better equipped for the top flight when we get there.

Of course, we could miss out now and be floundering mid-table in the Championship next year and be thinking we could have had £100+ million when we had a great chance. Who is to say how tough the Championship will be next season and we could rue a rare opportunity to 'sneak' promotion this year and regret it for years?

Or a meringue?

In the end, I can't help willing the Lads to get promoted and face what comes, but I have a niggling feeling we could miss out on seeing this team storming it next year with these current players ramping up another few notches. I suppose we should/can trust the recruitment team to utilise any Premier League income and potential parachute payments (should the worst happen) and we could do a Burnley in two years from now...

All ifs and buts but curious to know the thoughts of the wise SMB. I would wager the majority thinking 'F**k it, let's get up and worry about it later and have a good f**king go!'
Don’t get ahead of yourself
 
Stepping away from all the talk and speculation over how we might fare next season and the season beyond, and balance sheets and models and planning.

Football is about moments and memories. West Brom was one, Preston was one, Saturday was one.

Win tonight and at Wembley and there’s another 2 in the vault to tell the grandkids about when you’re old.
 
I'm praying that we get promoted and rise to the challenge of playing some cracking teams at the SOL. If we go up and struggle, well there is more leaning to be achieved than sitting in the championship hoping for the chance next year.
 
it’s never too early to be promoted!

Even just another day out at Wembley after another fantastic season would be immense for us and the club

The sleeping giant is about to finally be awaken. Hawayyyy!!!
 
What will be will be… but I would say if we didn’t go up I’d be worried about losing some of our star performers to the likes of Boro, if they go up, or lower end premier league teams. It’s probably naive to think this team will be the one giving it a crack next year if we don’t go up
 
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I cast my mind back to losing to Charlton at Wembley in 1998. Utterly devastating at the time, after a great season. But hindsight suggests staying down a further season then storming to the title stood us in better stead going into the Premier League.

I wonder if potentially going up this year, despite the blatantly obvious financially lucrative benefits, might be similar? We now already have more than a nucleus of a very good side. Another season in the Championship with most of these players (with Ekwah, Hume, Cirkin, Hume, Neil, Ba, Michael potentially and others) gaining another full season of experience, along with bedding in hopefully two or more new strikers, might mean we go up stronger.

The 'danger' is that going up now and potentially coming straight down again might result in this exciting young team (that could spend several years developing and improving) being dismantled sooner. Yes we would be in the Championship with loads of money, in a 'better' state to have another go, but who knows?

All hypothetical anyway since we might get knocked out tonight or lose at Wembley, or we might go up and stay up!

Part of me just feels that should we not go up this month, next season could see us having a storming season with this current crop (with reinforcements) being much stronger and being better equipped for the top flight when we get there.

Of course, we could miss out now and be floundering mid-table in the Championship next year and be thinking we could have had £100+ million when we had a great chance. Who is to say how tough the Championship will be next season and we could rue a rare opportunity to 'sneak' promotion this year and regret it for years?

Or a meringue?

In the end, I can't help willing the Lads to get promoted and face what comes, but I have a niggling feeling we could miss out on seeing this team storming it next year with these current players ramping up another few notches. I suppose we should/can trust the recruitment team to utilise any Premier League income and potential parachute payments (should the worst happen) and we could do a Burnley in two years from now...

All ifs and buts but curious to know the thoughts of the wise SMB. I would wager the majority thinking 'F**k it, let's get up and worry about it later and have a good f**king go!'
No side that goes up and doesn’t invest will ever stay up in the PL. Burnley would be lucky to get 15 points if they didn’t buy anyone and went with the same squad, so for me the too early argument is stupid - as it won’t be this 11 we’re playing next season anyway. Not to mention the fact we aren’t guaranteed automatic next season if we don’t go up.

In fact this reminds me of those who were saying relegation from the PL would be a good thing, and that definitely went really well didn’t it?
 
Getting to watch these lads hopefully do well in the championship next season is a consolation prize. We should all want to go up now, and finish 17th at least. If we go up then come straight back down then the PL money will transform the club compared to where it was 5/6 years ago, but there’s no reason we can’t emulate what Brentford have done .
 
Majority of teams who go up struggle it’s been the same for years and years, it’s beating the drop and building that’s a challenge.

Do I want us to go up 100% yes would we struggle yes but that’s the challenge and these lads love a challenge.

Ha'way the lads.
 
The money the club will get by spending just one season in the premier can massively change the club for the better. We are in good hands now so I'm sure we'll spend it in the right way...
 
I cast my mind back to losing to Charlton at Wembley in 1998. Utterly devastating at the time, after a great season. But hindsight suggests staying down a further season then storming to the title stood us in better stead going into the Premier League.

I wonder if potentially going up this year, despite the blatantly obvious financially lucrative benefits, might be similar? We now already have more than a nucleus of a very good side. Another season in the Championship with most of these players (with Ekwah, Hume, Cirkin, Hume, Neil, Ba, Michael potentially and others) gaining another full season of experience, along with bedding in hopefully two or more new strikers, might mean we go up stronger.

The 'danger' is that going up now and potentially coming straight down again might result in this exciting young team (that could spend several years developing and improving) being dismantled sooner. Yes we would be in the Championship with loads of money, in a 'better' state to have another go, but who knows?

All hypothetical anyway since we might get knocked out tonight or lose at Wembley, or we might go up and stay up!

Part of me just feels that should we not go up this month, next season could see us having a storming season with this current crop (with reinforcements) being much stronger and being better equipped for the top flight when we get there.

Of course, we could miss out now and be floundering mid-table in the Championship next year and be thinking we could have had £100+ million when we had a great chance. Who is to say how tough the Championship will be next season and we could rue a rare opportunity to 'sneak' promotion this year and regret it for years?

Or a meringue?

In the end, I can't help willing the Lads to get promoted and face what comes, but I have a niggling feeling we could miss out on seeing this team storming it next year with these current players ramping up another few notches. I suppose we should/can trust the recruitment team to utilise any Premier League income and potential parachute payments (should the worst happen) and we could do a Burnley in two years from now...

All ifs and buts but curious to know the thoughts of the wise SMB. I would wager the majority thinking 'F**k it, let's get up and worry about it later and have a good f**king go!'
Its simple really ! its a sport! so you do the best you can with what you've got! if not the edifice of sport its reason for existing is a sham and you might as well pack it all in !Accountants will be thinking of the 120 tv million though!
 
It’s not a debate, it’s nonsense. We may not get this opportunity again for the foreseeable. Grasp it with both hands and don’t let go.
 
How many fans would not want 200 million for finishing bottom?
Yes, strong chance to be relegated again...but then a chance of staying up... the financials rule out any other argument.
 

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