bozwellboyce
Central Defender
can you expand on the "Fibromyalgia" comment
dear meHi Frijj, welcome back, I thought you were banned. Sad day for SMB if you had been. Your posts are regularly fascinating and immensely well researched.
Just wanted to highlight a few uh, fallacies in your post.
1) If one turns off the media, or as I refer to it, the screen, this pandemic you describe as the most significant in the last century disappears. Interesting point, if one uses the same methodology of counting a covid death to the vaccine, then deaths from the vaccine actually are slightly higher than those from covid. This tells us there is no real pandemic. To clarify, a covid statistical death is counted as a death 28 days subsequent to testing positive. So in applying a death 28 days subsequent to the vaccine is the same methodology of which I speak. If the same methodology is not used, it surely is clear that there is a statistical manipulation over the figures.
2) The true problem is people who wish to divide the country in a manner similar to apartheid or 1930's Germany, or in the Deep South.
You are expecting people to get a vaccine that is has not passed clinical safety testing, for a "virus" that has never been isolated.
Study to Describe the Safety, Tolerability, Immunogenicity, and Efficacy of RNA Vaccine Candidates Against COVID-19 in Healthy Individuals - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov
Here is a link, if you navigate to the bottom, you will see that:
"A PHASE 1/2/3, PLACEBO-CONTROLLED, RANDOMIZED, OBSERVER-BLIND, DOSE-FINDING STUDY TO EVALUATE THE SAFETY, TOLERABILITY, IMMUNOGENICITY, AND EFFICACY OF SARS-COV-2 RNA VACCINE CANDIDATES AGAINST COVID-19 IN HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS" is not due to be completed until May 2023.
What this means (undeniably by a reasoned argument) is that testing over safety, tolerability, immunogenicity, and efficacy are not complete for another two years.
What this means is that your posts are essentially bullying people into becoming part of a medical experiment. These people tend to be respectful of your personal and admirable choice to be part of said medical experiment. However, in no way shape or form is it OK to bully people into being part of a medical experiment. This in fact is specifically mentioned as a war crime per the Nuremberg Code. Reasons being, one should not experiment medically upon another human without the explicit informed consent of that individual.
Of course I don't think you are war criminal. I must admit I have built a picture of you up in my imagination, and it is not a war criminal. Are you aware of the fictional character Jim Royle from the Royle Family?
Furthermore, as for legitimate reasons to not have the vaccine:
*that it is experimental
*religions reasons, one can find plenty in the New and Old Testaments. Should Jews, Christians, Rastafarians, as well as just peoples own personal spiritual reasons, have to go against their teaching and inner "understanding"
*allergies
*that vaccine makers are immune from liability. If a company is not willing to stand by their product as safe, especially when rushed to market before clinical testing is over, should someone take a chance on that product? Have you found any long term safety studies by any chance? Someone of your position would presumably have access to these to back it up...
*the dodgy past of vaccine companies (perhaps less so moderna, who have not brought a vaccine to market, and possibly J+J although I don't know for sure). Pfizer and Astrazeneca are serial felons. Do you know whay moderna are called moderna? Its because they have been trying to modernise RNA for yonkies. If drug companies are willing to put out a product that could cause injuries and dath (vioxx, bextra, thalidomide, opioids, bextra etc, when they can be sued, why should one have trust when they have no liability? In short, 3 of the 4 covid vaccine produces have been sued for products they brought to the market, even though they were aware deaths and injuries would result. It is almost like getting a hair cut from sweeney todd when one knows his game. Here be sources:
Johnson & Johnson Has a Long Rap Sheet — Why Should We Trust Its Vaccine?
Johnson & Johnson has never made a vaccine, but since entering the pharmaceutical market in 1959, the company has made a lot of headlines — and been fined billions — for bad behavior.childrenshealthdefense.org
Pfizer and the biggest criminal payout in history:
Vax | The Mirror Project
www.mp-22.com
*the sketchy history of attempts to make coronavirus vaccines. In the 1960's attempts to make a coronavirus vaccine killed children in human trials.
Learning from the past: development of safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines - Nature Reviews Microbiology
In this Perspective, Su, Du and Jiang discuss lessons from previous vaccine development efforts for other viruses and how the mechanisms of vaccine-associated disease enhancement seen in some viral infections can inform the development of a safe and efficacious COVID-19 vaccine.www.nature.com
In fact in the attached testing, the children and animals produced fantastic results and wonderful antibodies. The problems came, when children were exposed to a wild version of virus. What happened then was something called antibody dependent enhancement, where the immune systems produced a cytokine storm, attacking the own body. CAN YOU STATE UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT THIS MAY NOT HAPPEN AGAIN? Any testing done over this???
*If one studies the testing, rather than following the talking heads, one will find an astonishing amount of gaps in the safety testing data. There is no data suggesting safety of efficacy regarding: anyone younger than 18/older than 55, pregnant or lactating mothers, those with auto-immune conditions, immunocompromised individuals, no data on transmission, no data on preventing mortality, no data on duration of protection from covid. Hard to believe innit! Page 46 and 48 respectively of the sources below:
*No access to raw data from the trialsRemember all that efficicy claims of of 90% 95% etc? Would you like to see it? I would. So I emailed them. However no one has seen that data, including those that approved the vaccines.
Peter Doshi: Pfizer and Moderna’s “95% effective” vaccines—we need more details and the raw data - The BMJ
On 5 February 2021 we published a clarification to this piece. It is available here. Five weeks ago, when I raised questions about the results of Pfizer’s and Moderna’s covid-19 [...]More...blogs.bmj.com
"There were “3,410 total cases of suspected, but unconfirmed covid-19 in the overall study population, 1,594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1,816 in the placebo group"
In short, this smells quite fishy, I am sure you will agree. In short, they have failed to do science in their scientific study, by not verifying a major variable. They could not test suspected but unconfirmed cases to find if they had covid. An accurate study would have tested all 3,410. One could make a (REASONABLE ASSUMPTION) that maybe they didnt do so because it would mess up the efficiacy claims they needed(?). I mean if its every citizen in the world you want to take these experimental products right? What about the regulators? Or is it possible, there is a chance someone has let the fox guard the hen house?
*No long term safety testing. In short, no one has any idea what the product will do in the future (i.e it is reasonable and sensible to wait and see what the product will do in the future. It is far easier to have a vaccine at a later date, when you are comfortable, than to un-have a vaccine).
*there appears to be no informed consent. Most people who are taking the vaccine havent been informed it is part of a clinical trial. Weirdly, I think those that do not take it are also part of a clinical trial, acting as a control group. But thats just a funny observation. Time will tell how the experiment works.
*You might think that if the vaccines were causing harm, it would be all over the news (esoteric etymological argument here but media comes from the Greek sorceress Medea, who used her powers for deception). According to a study done by Harvard, see below:
The VAERS system, vaccine adverse events reporting system, only collects less than 1% of all adverse reactions to the vaccine. See below for VAERS current statistics on the vaccine:
If one applies 1% to the deaths that gives over 500k deaths alone from the vaccine. And 2.358 million serious adverse effects. Now I do actually personally think that this sounds high. But this is a possibility, and until the actual effects are substantiated reliably somewhere, prudence over the vaccine is surely valid? How come this hasn't been on the news?
Damn that 10,000 character rule is a ball ache
Unless he/she has had 2 jabs - they should stay the f**k at home! but agree totally with your sentiment
add pubs to that as well please
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