This litte girl on the Isle of Bute

A 27 year punishment part for a 16 year old is very high. Indeed, most murders committed by adults don't usually attract such a heavy sentence. There is clearly, however, a background to this which attracts a much higher tariff than usual.

Basically, what needs to be borne in mind is that an identical offence, committed by a child, will attract a much lower punishment part than that of an adult. With that in mind, 27 years could be viewed as very high for a child.

Against that, however, is the nature of the offence, which was clearly utterly horrendous.

The question for the appeal court will be, therefore, has an appropriate punishment part been applied, bearing in mind the age of the offender, but with the exceptionally serious nature of the offence.

My guess is that they'll reduce it, but only by a small amount. My estimate is 23 or 24 years. I'll probably be wrong! 😁

It's worth considering that whatever the punishment part ends up being, that this is the length of time he'll need to be in jail before he can start the parole procedure. There is no "early release" etc in a life sentence. The parole procedure will take a minimum of a year to get anywhere near a decision to release, so he'll be in for the punishment part, plus another year at least.
 

Fred Secrets

Striker
A 27 year punishment part for a 16 year old is very high. Indeed, most murders committed by adults don't usually attract such a heavy sentence. There is clearly, however, a background to this which attracts a much higher tariff than usual.

Basically, what needs to be borne in mind is that an identical offence, committed by a child, will attract a much lower punishment part than that of an adult. With that in mind, 27 years could be viewed as very high for a child.

Against that, however, is the nature of the offence, which was clearly utterly horrendous.

The question for the appeal court will be, therefore, has an appropriate punishment part been applied, bearing in mind the age of the offender, but with the exceptionally serious nature of the offence.

My guess is that they'll reduce it, but only by a small amount. My estimate is 23 or 24 years. I'll probably be wrong! 😁

It's worth considering that whatever the punishment part ends up being, that this is the length of time he'll need to be in jail before he can start the parole procedure. There is no "early release" etc in a life sentence. The parole procedure will take a minimum of a year to get anywhere near a decision to release, so he'll be in for the punishment part, plus another year at least.
Spot on, Vincent.


Unbelievable.:rolleyes:
 

Scorer

Striker
Spot on, Vincent.


Unbelievable.:rolleyes:
Still the longest sentence ever for a " child" of 16. In truth I doubt he'll get out in 24 years, the sentencing reports seem pretty clear that his personality is unlikely to favour rehabilitation and if he's still seen as a danger when his sentence is up he won't be released. I suspect the original sentence might have built in an allowance for appeal resulting in a reduction.
 

Lord Potts

Winger
Whether he was given 27 or 24 years is all a bit academic to me. His mental state seems to be so disturbed I should imagine that he will be held in a secure hospital for all or certainly for the greater part of his life.

After 24 years he will be only 40 and if his mental health has not dramatically improved by then -which seems unlikely - he's bound to be considered to be still a serious threat and he will continue to be held
 
Whether he was given 27 or 24 years is all a bit academic to me. His mental state seems to be so disturbed I should imagine that he will be held in a secure hospital for all or certainly for the greater part of his life.

After 24 years he will be only 40 and if his mental health has not dramatically improved by then -which seems unlikely - he's bound to be considered to be still a serious threat and he will continue to be held
He’ll be able to suss out what they want to hear by then, say he’s recovered etc then do the fucker again
 

Cypher

Winger
Stating the obvious but hopefully he do the right thing and off himself unless someone else does first.
 

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