They get Benfica, we get... relegated?


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Well said like I have said before though, us as supporters should share some of the blame for accepting the idea that we as a club prefer hard working heaps of shite such as Danny Collins did he really win player of the year twice ? Dear god, we have to change our whole set up behind the scenes and start signing some proper footballers for a change a few who are quite good at the 100 metres would be nice as well.

alfred looks a start to me, and you didn't pm me in january.

dennis out.
 
Fair play to them, they've done well with a smallish squad to get to the quarters of a major European competition. I wouldn't bet against them either. They have players of the calibre of Tiote, sissoko and Cabaye, and play pretty decent attacking football, whilst I watch the turgid rubbish dished up by a dreary set of players and a manager with no ideas.

Same old same old. Am I jealous? Yes. In my 45 years of watching Sunderland, I can't really remember any time other than fleetingly for a couple of seasons when we've been better than them. They seem at the moment to have their club geared up to spending money wisely, doing their homework and getting value for money. We've consistently skunked millions on trash and employed dinosaur managers.

Time to go back to the drawing board Ellis, and although it sticks in my craw to say it, take a leaf out of their book. Get rid of this dreary manager and replace him with someone with ideas and a philosophy. Preferably foreign. Have a 3 - 5 year plan to get rid of the current squad except talented youngsters and replace them with quality. I've had enough of living in their f***ing shadow!!!

How can you say Tiote is a quality player?

It shows you haven't even watched them knackers for months yet you commend their attacking football.

Tit.
 
Fair play to them, they've done well with a smallish squad to get to the quarters of a major European competition. I wouldn't bet against them either. They have players of the calibre of Tiote, sissoko and Cabaye, and play pretty decent attacking football, whilst I watch the turgid rubbish dished up by a dreary set of players and a manager with no ideas.

Same old same old. Am I jealous? Yes. In my 45 years of watching Sunderland, I can't really remember any time other than fleetingly for a couple of seasons when we've been better than them. They seem at the moment to have their club geared up to spending money wisely, doing their homework and getting value for money. We've consistently skunked millions on trash and employed dinosaur managers.

Time to go back to the drawing board Ellis, and although it sticks in my craw to say it, take a leaf out of their book. Get rid of this dreary manager and replace him with someone with ideas and a philosophy. Preferably foreign. Have a 3 - 5 year plan to get rid of the current squad except talented youngsters and replace them with quality. I've had enough of living in their f***ing shadow!!!

i think you are correct in what you are saying.
We struck lucky to be honest, we invested JUST at the right time, the start of the prem, we invested and kept on investing, almost to bankruptcy but i think it gave us more of a global reputation, certainly a local reputaion which gave us more fans. Sky Tv wanked all over us for the entertainers (and to be honest you can see why, we played some good football) and we live off that reputaion.

that wasnt sustainable though, micky mouse signings like owen almost ruined us as a club. Thankfully Ashley came in and has given us the medacine we didnt want but we needed. we are now sustainable and have a proper well thought out recrutment policy, where players are not just bought on reputation and "ability". We scout the players that we NEED and we scout players that will have financial value for re-sale.

you are right that as a club at the moment you are not foreward thinking. i think you were when you had quinn and the irish consortium. i think you need to follow suit (i think alot of clubs are going to find similair plans as us) and have an indipendant scouting network, realise that as a club (we think this too about us) you are a stepping stone for the big clubs. so the transfer policy should be young hungry players. experience and age is all well and good, and i belive a mixture is good, but young hungry players the way forward. like n'dye (sp?) whickem (sorry, again sp?) bye players that can fit straight into the team. whickem :eek: i dnot understand that decision.


ohh fuck ive rambled on and made no point, i am gunna get fuck off mag anyway though :lol:
in a nutshell, yeah i think taking a leaf out of our book wouldnt be a bad thing. we copied arsenal, they aint doing to bad either
 
i think you are correct in what you are saying.
We struck lucky to be honest, we invested JUST at the right time, the start of the prem, we invested and kept on investing, almost to bankruptcy but i think it gave us more of a global reputation, certainly a local reputaion which gave us more fans. Sky Tv wanked all over us for the entertainers (and to be honest you can see why, we played some good football) and we live off that reputaion.

that wasnt sustainable though, micky mouse signings like owen almost ruined us as a club. Thankfully Ashley came in and has given us the medacine we didnt want but we needed. we are now sustainable and have a proper well thought out recrutment policy, where players are not just bought on reputation and "ability". We scout the players that we NEED and we scout players that will have financial value for re-sale.

you are right that as a club at the moment you are not foreward thinking. i think you were when you had quinn and the irish consortium. i think you need to follow suit (i think alot of clubs are going to find similair plans as us) and have an indipendant scouting network, realise that as a club (we think this too about us) you are a stepping stone for the big clubs. so the transfer policy should be young hungry players. experience and age is all well and good, and i belive a mixture is good, but young hungry players the way forward. like n'dye (sp?) whickem (sorry, again sp?) bye players that can fit straight into the team. whickem :eek: i dnot understand that decision.


ohh fuck ive rambled on and made no point, i am gunna get fuck off mag anyway though :lol:
in a nutshell, yeah i think taking a leaf out of our book wouldnt be a bad thing. we copied arsenal, they aint doing to bad either

credit were it's due, your signings have been good but i wonder why bob is ignoring my posts?
 
Boro and Fulham really kicked on after getting to European finals, we should take a leaf out of their book too, we'd be a European superpower in no time.
 
there is a chance that we may get relegated, there is a small chance that they might. 3 points better off than us, when last season they finished 20 ahead. Mind the gap, it's getting closer and Tiote is shite
 
But as we are frequently reminded if we get relegated he'll still be the best man for the job, and besides the relegation will be blamed on bruce anyway. Teflon manager
 
i highly doubt mon has taken this job with a 'that'll do' philosophy.

they have bought well, and why appoint a foreign manager when clearly we need to take a leaf out of the mags book and appoint a recently sacked league 1 manager :lol:

What about Swansea? 8th in the league and have a cup in locker, signed some good foreign players and looked to bring in a good foreign coach. We've gone out and bought yet again more British crap and paid way over the odds again. You get what you pay for.
 
If we are going to get all worked up and jealous about another club I think we should probably look beyond a side that is 3 points above us who also havent won a trophy since Noah was rounding up animals two by two.
 
We will always be shite but we pretend we are a big club due to the facilities. I would rather have roker park back and the old whitburn training ground for a good team and manager.
 
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