The young managers we are linked with will need a mentor exactly like Mowbray


Tictactom66

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In my opinion it is far too big a leap for the likes of Schumacher at Plymouth , or Will Still at Reims to take over managing a club as demanding as Sunderland , without the help of a fully experienced mentor.
Mowbray would have been ideal , a gem of a coach who was trusted and respected by the players .
He was at a stage of his career that he would have welcomed a role coaching the players full time , whilst giving guidance to a new young manager
Once again I think Sunderland have missed a golden opportunity to progress - was there any talks with Mowbray trying to persuade him to take up such a roll ?
It could have been a win win situation - bringing in a young progressive motivated manager - helped and guided by a great coach and mentor in Mowbray
 
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In my opinion it is far too big a leap for the likes of Schumacher at Plymouth , or Will Still at Reims to take over managing a club as demanding as Sunderland , without the help of a fully experienced mentor.
Mowbray would have been ideal , a gem of a coach who was trusted and respected by the players .
He was at a stage of his career that he would have welcomed a role coaching the players full time , whilst giving guidance to a new young manager
Once again I think Sunderland have missed a golden opportunity to progress - was there any talks with Mowbray trying to persuade him to take up such a roll ?
It could have been a win win situation - bringing in a young progressive motivated manager - helped and guided by a great coach and mentor in Mowbray
Will Still is doing alright in the top flight of France by himself. I think he could handle the English second tier.
 
In my opinion it is far too big a leap for the likes of Schumacher at Plymouth , or Will Still at Reims to take over managing a club as demanding as Sunderland , without the help of a fully experienced mentor.
Mowbray would have been ideal , a gem of a coach who was trusted and respected by the players .
He was at a stage of his career that he would have welcomed a role coaching the players full time , whilst giving guidance to a new young manager
Once again I think Sunderland have missed a golden opportunity to progress - was there any talks with Mowbray trying to persuade him to take up such a roll ?
It could have been a win win situation - bringing in a young progressive motivated manager - helped and guided by a great coach and mentor in Mowbray
no he doesnt.....thats the whole point in going for a young unknown manager.....new ideas and new methods.....last thing he needs is an old fart on his shoulder
 
Will Still is managing at a far higher level than we have played in for closing on a decade now and the last time Mowbray managed at a comparable level was about 15 years ago.

Tactically, he appears to be light years ahead of Mowbray, who basically said himself last season that young managers such as Kompany and Carrick have used tactical setups that he hasn't a clue about, so not sure what the point would be.

He wouldn't need any hand-holding and keeping a former manager around like a bad smell to do same has no logic whatsoever.
 
In my opinion it is far too big a leap for the likes of Schumacher at Plymouth , or Will Still at Reims to take over managing a club as demanding as Sunderland , without the help of a fully experienced mentor.
Mowbray would have been ideal , a gem of a coach who was trusted and respected by the players .
He was at a stage of his career that he would have welcomed a role coaching the players full time , whilst giving guidance to a new young manager
Once again I think Sunderland have missed a golden opportunity to progress - was there any talks with Mowbray trying to persuade him to take up such a roll ?
It could have been a win win situation - bringing in a young progressive motivated manager - helped and guided by a great coach and mentor in Mowbray
Nonsense.

The great Cloughie once said - “The manager that will unlock the potential at Sunderland will be unknown, someone who will create curiosity in the supporters and players, someone who knows his own mind. It could never be me, there would be no unknown, and I’ve always needed help to succeed.” I agree with him.

Ferguson started to succeed once Matt Busby stepped away from the club, no manager will succeed there until he steps away. Klopp succeeded once Dalglish stepped back. In any business (and football is no exception), the best exceed once the past moves away!
 
I agree with the OP in that we've lost a good un. It seems wrong that we've lost his nous in coaching and the clear man-management skills where younger players are concerned.

But the alternative was to move him upstairs and give him a 'Director of Football' type role............. and you can see the problem there, straight away.

There's not much room for sentiment in footy. I guess everyone knows this and both we and TM will move on quickly enough.
 
In my opinion it is far too big a leap for the likes of Schumacher at Plymouth , or Will Still at Reims to take over managing a club as demanding as Sunderland , without the help of a fully experienced mentor.
Mowbray would have been ideal , a gem of a coach who was trusted and respected by the players .
He was at a stage of his career that he would have welcomed a role coaching the players full time , whilst giving guidance to a new young manager
Once again I think Sunderland have missed a golden opportunity to progress - was there any talks with Mowbray trying to persuade him to take up such a roll ?
It could have been a win win situation - bringing in a young progressive motivated manager - helped and guided by a great coach and mentor in Mowbray
Just no, the 2 people mentioned are already managing without the help of an ageing mentor (and add the lad from Sweden to that list), and in the case of still is managing at a higher level than Mowbray has manged in 25 years.
The roll for Mowbray would have been academy director IMO.
 

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