The US and the Holocaust on BBC


Interesting that it's been mentioned a Jewish man coined phrase holocaust after the war. Appears it goes back as far as 12th century. Appeared in ep 3 of Simon schamas history of Britain. Reshowing on BBC cracking programme. Funny the stuff you can pick up.
 
was a fascinating but tough watch as expected. the American anti-semitism surprised me as well, especially hearing about how they had to hush up any jewish aspects of why they were going to war!

The story of the guy who managed to escape Poland but couldn't live the life and went back to try and rescue his family - all inevitably killed. And then Otto Frank, being the only survivor of his family. Seems like Anne and her sister (?) managed to survive the camps but ended up dying of Typhus on the death walk afterwards.
Interesting that it's been mentioned a Jewish man coined phrase holocaust after the war. Appears it goes back as far as 12th century. Appeared in ep 3 of Simon schamas history of Britain. Reshowing on BBC cracking programme. Funny the stuff you can pick up.
cheers, always love his programmes
 
What it did bring home was how isolated Britain was as the Nazis swept across Europe and the USA were reluctant to get involved.

I think we sort of take for granted that we won the war knowing how it ended but in 1940 it wasn’t looking that way. Thankfully Hitler was focused on destroying the USSR more than invading across the channel.
If it wasn't for Russian winter and Hitler being shite as a general, we'd be fkd. With hindsight it's easy to say the USA should've helped. At the time, I'd have taken some convincing that we should send our sons to die on another continent.





I'd recommend Miles Powers on YouTube for some fascinating debunking of the Holocaust deniers. A very interesting rabbit hole.
 
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Interesting that it's been mentioned a Jewish man coined phrase holocaust after the war. Appears it goes back as far as 12th century. Appeared in ep 3 of Simon schamas history of Britain. Reshowing on BBC cracking programme. Funny the stuff you can pick up.

Yes I have heard that before. There was some horrific treatment of Jews in England in the 1100s.

Clifford’s Tower in York is one site and I remember seeing a programme about a well that was excavated in Norwich that they found packed with Skeletons and they tested the DNA and found them likely to be Jewish. They reckon they had been thrown in alive. :(
 
Yes I have heard that before. There was some horrific treatment of Jews in England in the 1100s.

Clifford’s Tower in York is one site and I remember seeing a programme about a well that was excavated in Norwich that they found packed with Skeletons and they tested the DNA and found them likely to be Jewish. They reckon they had been thrown in alive. :(
To be fair nobody was off the table of demise back then.
 
Watched all three in the last week, just finished episode three this morning... unbelievably moving, the quality of the documentary is wonderful and gives an interesting retrospective on the whole "jewish question" from both sides... never seen any of ken burns previous stuff, but this is up there with the world at war.

towards the end of episode three, one GI writes home to his dad that the bigger war is that people "think" like this, makes you angry even now to think people still think like this so many years later or would even attempt to argue that the holocaust never happened.
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also, timely (especially today) that the last episode does not stop in 1945... that this goes beyond germany and is a story for all of humanity...

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